Affordable Care Act Scene 2 - Insurance Premiums

<p>SamuraiLandshark: </p>

<p>Under ACA, there are multiple options for a young person age 18-26:</p>

<p>1) The person can remain in the parent’s insurance policy, up through age 26, whether or not living at home, or whether or not a dependent. If the young person has a taxable income, that income will be include in calculating household income for purposes of subsidies, and household size will be determined counting that person. </p>

<p>2) The young person can buy a separate policy, in whatever state he lives (including the home state of the person). If the young person is still claimed as a dependent of the parents, the young person will NOT be eligible for a subsidy on the exchange, but is free to buy the policy at full cost, or to purchase a policy directly from an insurer. </p>

<p>3) The young person can get insurance through an employer, if available.</p>

<p>4) If the young person is financially independent of the parents – NOT a dependent for tax purposes, and has a personal income of below 138% of the poverty line, the young person can get Medicaid, if he lives in one of the states that expanded medicaid.</p>

<p>5) If the young person is a college student, he can also opt to buy insurance offered via his university. </p>

<p>Bottom line: under ACA, the person age 18-26 has more choices than ever before. </p>

<p>A parent who posted upthread had a concern because the daughter had a history of a serious and recurrent medical condition. Before passage of ACA, that child would have been virtually uninsurable via the private market – unless the parents had been lucky enough to be able to hold onto a policy issued before the first diagnosis. It is likely that the insurance rates would have been very high as well. However, when the ACA was passed, the prohibition on excluding children for pre-existing conditions was effective immediately, so the parents would have been able to buy a new policy including the daughter from 2011 going forward. Now, as noted, if the daughter goes out of state to college, they will have the opportunity to choose from any policy offered in the destination state. The daughter will pay the same rate as any other 18 year old.</p>

<p>It is probably more confusing for the parents than it was in the past, but that confusion stems from the fact that they actually have an array of different choices. Five years ago, if they received a cancellation notice from their insurance company, for whatever reason – they probably would have found it impossible to insure their daughter at any cost. When the daughter went off to college, they’d opt for the college plan – even if it was skimpy - because that would be what was available without medical underwriting. </p>

<p>I advised a wait-and-see approach simply because they don’t know where their daughter will be attending school in the fall. If the daughter had an ED admission in hand, they could begin to do some research about that particular state and college – but without that information, it’s just not worth the effort to do that much advance planning. </p>

<p>Another option they have is to keep their daughter on the in-state plan through 2014, knowing that the daughter is entitled to emergency care in any state on that plan, and simply wait until the next open enrollment period before considering any change.</p>

<p>Calmom, post 3921 was very helpful. Thanks.</p>

<p>“if they received a cancellation notice from their insurance company, for whatever reason”</p>

<p>In Ca. you can’t cancel coverage on the individual market because of the health status of the policyholders.</p>

<p>Calmom, I am assuming you’re not talking about the employer-provided group market in your post.</p>

<p>Edit: Prior to ACA, college kids were covered on the parent’s individual plan.</p>

<p>It is a religious based org where no one gets paid more than 50k. They are exempt from most employer based laws but since the wages are so low, the insurance is picked up and there are almost no deductibles at the moment. We have been debating whether to send people individually to the exchanges and cover the deductibles.</p>

<p>The key to having coverage for kids before ACA was making sure you had coverage before having the kid!</p>

<p>So I’m the one with the kid who gets tumors in her head and was worried about health insurance. IF she goes out of state - that has yet to be determined - I am thinking two policies for her. She has to be able to see her doctor here if the tumor comes back yet again and requires surgery since this thing is very rare. However, where ever she goes to school, she’ll need regular check-ups to determine if the tumor has returned. Since I am having a hard time finding insurance that would cover her for both locations, I am inclined to just buy two policies, one for each state if she goes out of state. </p>

<p>I know this seems crazy but we’ve worked very hard at making sure her life is as normal as possible even with this condition. So, even if it’s a pain for us, we want to ensure she can go to the college that works best for her and do not want to limit her due to something like insurance.</p>

<p>If it was an ‘easy’ disease that lots of people have, I would have more options available to me. But with her tumor, she’s one of a handful that’s had it and has survived it. There’s about five doctors in the US that has experience with her tumor and I am VERY lucky to have a doctor locally that is one of them.</p>

<p>Would that be allowed? To purchase two policies since I haven’t found one that covers enough for in-state and out of state?</p>

<p>Would that be allowed? To purchase two policies since I haven’t found one that covers enough for in-state and out of state? </p>

<p>Why not? I don’t think, however, you would qualify for subsidies for two plans. Is this doctor who treats this condition in the network for the ACA plans being offered to you?</p>

<p>I am thinking of buying two policies for my kid. I have been buying two policies for my kid for years. </p>

<p>I would call your insurance company.</p>

<p>“I have been buying two policies for my kid for years.”</p>

<p>Why?</p>

<p>The college insurance plans stunk.</p>

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There’s a rather technical provision about out-of-pocket maximums that has been extended for some business plans because of accounting/reporting issues.</p>

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I wouldn’t be eligible for subsidies no matter what. So that’s not an issue so much for me.</p>

<p>Your daughter doesnt qualify for subsidies on her own?</p>

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Thanks. I wasn’t sure what is and is not allowed anymore. I’ve been with the same insurance company for years and years but now they’re no longer offering PPOs for individual policies anymore in my state and I have to change. Even though I have a successful business (albeit VERY small), I have honestly been contemplating shutting it down to work for corporate just to get the insurance. This whole insurance thing has been a bit of a nightmare for us since we got our cancellation notice.</p>

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She’s a dependent and will remain so. Not sure how income/asset verification will hurt her or not. She’s got a trust that could be of issue there. However, it’s something we could check.</p>

<p>I am not really sure of the rules on two policies. It was just easier to buy two policies. :)</p>

<p>Things are very complicated right now, but the complications should lessen over time. </p>

<p>My daughter had a very rare brain tumor that was removed this year. Now… We have mritis now. (She is not my kid who lives out of state).</p>

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<p>In California, as in other states, it was common practice for insurers to flag a policy when someone was diagnosed with a serious condition, then do in-depth research of the policy-holders medical history, and then “rescind” the policy for “fraud” because of some past medical and often trivial medical event or diagnosis that had not been reported in the insurance application. See: [Anthem</a> Blue Cross settles with California over rescission practices](<a href=“http://www.healthlawyers.org/NEWS/DAILYARCHIVE/Pages/AnthemBlueCrosssettleswithCaliforniaoverrescissionpractices.aspx]Anthem”>http://www.healthlawyers.org/NEWS/DAILYARCHIVE/Pages/AnthemBlueCrosssettleswithCaliforniaoverrescissionpractices.aspx)</p>

<p>In any case, in California and in other states, insurance companies could always cancel or terminate policies simply by not offering the particular plan any more.</p>

<p>Insurance policies were also commonly terminated when the insured reached the maximum lifetime limits of the policy. A condition requiring multiple complex surgeries could easily push the expenditures to that limit.</p>

<p>Only income counts when figuring out subsidies. Assets and or net worth dont count.</p>

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<p>Are you sure you would want two different doctors monitoring this? It would seem better to rely on your specialist at home and schedule appointments around trips home. My D has a condition that requires monitoring so she had checkups during holiday breaks, spring break and over the summer.</p>

<p>What do younger snowbirds do? You know…folks who live in the northeast in the summer but go to the southeast or southwest for the winter? How do they get medical coverage in both states?</p>