<p>[New</a> ObamaCare fees coming in 2014 | New York Post](<a href=“http://nypost.com/2013/12/25/new-obamacare-fees-coming-in-2014/]New”>New ObamaCare fees coming in 2014)</p>
<p>Busdriver11, is your post a joke?</p>
<p>Massachusetts, which has had Romneycare for several years now, has the highest medical costs per capita in the nation. </p>
<p>I don’t think medical costs will come down one bit due to ACA. They will go up.</p>
<p>Expecting to cover 30-million more people and save money does not seem realistic. At all.</p>
<p>Hard to tell, dstark, I’ll just let you wonder.:D</p>
<p>So can I mark you down as someone whose costs went way down next year?</p>
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<p>Here ya go: [Health</a> Premiums Up $3,065; Obama Vowed $2,500 Cut - Yahoo Finance](<a href=“http://finance.yahoo.com/news/health-premiums-3-065-obama-224300715.html]Health”>Health Premiums Up $3,065; Obama Vowed $2,500 Cut)</p>
<p>BTW, that doesn’t include the impact of the higher deductibles.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it have been cheaper and less disruptive for everyone to just let those people who didn’t have employer policies and who couldn’t get insurance due to pre-existing conditions, to get Medicaid or to continue with the state high risk pools? This whole scheme was like killing a flea with a sledgehammer.</p>
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<p>Good analogy.
Except they didn’t even wind up killing the flea.
If this was supposed to solve the problem of 30M uninsured, why is it that so few have “enrolled” (not just “signed up”)?</p>
<p>The article in post 8386 is from Investor’s Business Daily. No one takes that publication seriously. They also say that the elderly and disabled will be euthanized.</p>
<p>You know, most of what the critics were predicting is happening. That is reality.</p>
<p>I like IBD but I have to say that particular story is disingenuous at best and downright dishonest at worst. </p>
<p>What has a price rise of premiums between 2008 and 2012 got to do with ACA? </p>
<p>Btw, most of this discussion is considered political. So please watch your posts.</p>
<p>Didn’t ACA pass in 2009? I also like IBD and wouldn’t really call it a political paper. It’s financial.</p>
<p>So it already passed 4 years ago and fully implemented. Shall I close this thread?</p>
<p>Before the ACA was even passed: </p>
<p>[State</a> Trends in Premiums and Deductibles, 2003?2010: The Need for Action to Address Rising Costs - The Commonwealth Fund](<a href=“http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Publications/Issue-Briefs/2011/Nov/State-Trends-in-Premiums.aspx]State”>http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Publications/Issue-Briefs/2011/Nov/State-Trends-in-Premiums.aspx)</p>
<p>Let’s not pretend this rampant inflation is unique to 2009 onward. It’s not. In fact, the 4% increase that we’ve seen recently is very low.</p>
<p>ETA: Texas, I hope you do not. It’s been invaluable for many of us who have been trying to navigate the exchange.</p>
<p>No, please don’t. It’s not fully implemented at all. Business changes coming in 2014.</p>
<p>Busdriver, my grandfathered in plan’s premium was reduced by 20% this year. Without the subsidy.</p>
<p>ETA: I just went on to BCBS’ site to make sure my bill was paid and was greeted with this message:</p>
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<p>Ok… even if my payment didn’t post for next month (it did), I’d still have coverage until tomorrow.
I don’t plan on going to the hospital in the next 24 hours so I don’t want to call and deal with BCBS’ incompetence. But c’mon, really? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>[Provisions</a> of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisions_of_the_Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act]Provisions”>Provisions of the Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>The law was passed in March 2010. The first impacts to premiums should have been noticed starting in September 2010 since they implemented several provisions right away.</p>
<p>So if this story wanted to look at the impact, the first year of reference should have been 2010, not 2008. However, the real baseline should be 2013 since the individual mandate is kicking in for 2014 which is when the promise of lower premiums should kick in but I would have accepted 2010 as relevant to make this article remotely acceptable.</p>
<p>If the article wanted to be honest, they should have added at least a couple of sentences saying 2500 reduction was promised but before the law kicked in, the prices have risen 3000. Omitted statements are as egregious as lies and point to bad journalism.</p>
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<p>oh please.
They cite a Kaiser study as well as the OMB.</p>
<p>Reporters cannot be expected to understand this thing any better than policymakers. Actual facts are hard to come by, so I don’t think it’s fair to bash news reports when most of their sources on both sides are misleading at best.</p>
<p>Nevermind, I tried calling BCBS to get this straightened out and it has me as “inactive”. When they transferred me to a real person, I got a busy tone then hang up. </p>
<p>… ugh.</p>
<p>LOL Now it’s “Thank you for calling Blue Marketing Group. You have reached a number that is not currently in service.”
WHEE it looks like I have a fun-filled day of tag ahead.</p>