<p>Dietz199, you are in a group plan. I am talking individual plans. If somebody who is uninsured signs up for
Insurance between Mar 16-Mar31… Insurance doesnt start until May 1. Who knows when the bills will go out? </p>
<p>As of a couple of weeks ago, I was told there were still some bills for Jan coverage that hadnt gone out. </p>
<p>The bottom line is 90 percent with a bill due are paying so far. </p>
<p>Well, it’s nearly April so if people haven’t paid for January something is wrong. You did used to have to pay ahead even if you had an individual policy.</p>
<p>The people I enrolled for April have all received bills due on March 30th and they have all paid up.</p>
<p>GP - I am sorry to burst your bubble but you are not as special as Ann. If Ann wants a group plan she will get a group plan. At her level there are insurance executives lining up to get her enrolled. People with Millions have connections most of us don’t.</p>
<p>Some things will be hang ups and should be distinguished from catastrophes.
I don’t know how to explain this, romani, but I ran into something similar- it turned out to be what I (having tech experience) would call a surface issue: an unresolved Task kept the summary page from accurately reflecting. I had to have them check every single available page, to find this one hitch. Also, they kept repeating, as long as billing looks right, you are enrolled. Haunt them, if you must. Get them to dig. Good luck. </p>
<p>The problem with the billing is that it only billed him for dental, not for health. He paid dental and is all set on that but the health just never went through. It’s clearly “enrolled” or whatever on Healthcare.gov but was never sent to BCBS. I didn’t even realize you could sign up for dental without health… I thought the dental was just an addition to the health rather than a stand-alone plan. </p>
<p>I do think it’s just a tech problem (and probably an under-trained staff… this is the same staff that asked ME what “religious exemption” meant when I called about Implanon) but it’s still frustrating! :/</p>
<p>My son says his bill is for 3 months due in May. I called BlueCross-Blue Shield in NY because that sounds bizarre. I was told they sometimes bill people for 3 months but you can pay 1 month at a time. Hmmmmmm… I dont know. I think the bill may be for past months. He never paid for jan or feb. Maybe he never paid for March either. :)</p>
<p>LF, yeah … I told him to pay as soon as possible. He said he would. He did pay last month for one month. He is busy and he isnt into paying with my money. :)</p>
<p>So this guy who has a family, makes $36,000 a year and is faced with paying $350 a month after subsidies for Obamacare, tells Obama at a town hall that he can’t afford it. For those who appreciate irony, the executive in charge of the federal govt, with trillions of public debt as far as the eye can see, proceeds to lecture this gentleman about his priorities. He even has the unmitigated gall to tell this guy to cut his cable and cell phone bills. You can’t make this stuff up.</p>
<p>What surprised me were the correct answers to:</p>
<h1>7 – the additional amount an average family paid in annual premiums prior to ACA to cover cost shifting was $1000.00 I thought this number would be higher.</h1>
<h1>11 – On average, 18% of applicants were declined due to pre existing conditions. I thought this number would be higher</h1>
<h1>15 Pre ACA Massachusetts had the highest per capita spending on health care.</h1>
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<p>I take the last one to be a foreshadowing…and a big uh oh!</p>
<p>If you are insinuating that Romneycare caused Massachusetts to have the highest health care costs in the nation, the causality would have to have involved a time machine. Massachusetts health care costs were already the highest in the nation before Romneycare was passed. </p>
<p>LasMa - Nope, I never said silly. But, good anecdotes should not be surprising or unexpected. After all, that was the whole point. In other words; it’s only news when the plane crashes. Every safe landing is not covered. </p>
<p>True, and that’s what they’re counting on. Although for purposes that may not be as humanistic as some would like to think since no-one seems to give a flip about the crash victims. But, basically we agree.</p>
<p>I do care. There was this course at Harvard. Hopefully it stiil exists. The class was also online and on PBS. It was about morals and ethics. Philosophy.
There were questions like this… You are driving a bus with 30 people on board. You are going to go over a cliff and everybody is going to die… Or you can veer off and crush 3 people who are walking, but save the 30 on the bus? Which do you choose ?</p>
<p>You are lost at sea in a boat. There are 5 of you on this boat. Everybody is starving, Do you kill one person so 4 people dont starve? Or do you all starve to death? </p>
<p>This argument is premature. The law is only a few months old and only a very small percentage of the populace is stuck with Obamacare. The number of horror-story anecdotes will continue to grow as people get cancer or other terrible illnesses and they found out their options to seek care are severely limited. Eventually, when some of these waivers and extensions which obama has given out like candy has run out, you will see people in the small group market and even in the large groups confronted with the same junky plans people in the individual market are stuck with. That’s when the sh*t will hit the fan.</p>