<p>That’s awesome, dstark. And as I mentioned yesterday, they used to cover some of the very same medical treatments they now find so objectionable. Gotta love corporate hypocrisy. At least their motives are crystal clear.</p>
<p>You’re right, it Isn’t much of a blow, Fang. ACA still isn’t going away. :-)</p>
<p>ACA will be fine. </p>
<p>LasMa, Hobby Lobby is a person. A religious person. A reliigious person except when it comes to its investments. :)</p>
<p>Oh thanks, I forgot! I’m still not used to the fact that a person needn’t have eyes, legs, heart, or soul anymore. </p>
<p>Lol!!!</p>
<p>Their investments are old news. Was a thread at one point but it got locked. </p>
<p>Not going to change ACA one bit - but there will definitely be more corporations citing their “sincerely held beliefs” to get exemptions from a whole host of laws. </p>
<p>I am interested in what affect this will have on Sharia law in domestic couft cases and state’s which have passed laws against it. Me thinks these state’s will not have a leg to stand on now. </p>
<p>Never paid attention to the Hobby Lobby thread.</p>
<p>I like this article. </p>
<p><a href=“The Illogic of Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance - The New York Times”>The Illogic of Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance - The New York Times;
<p>Tatin, those of us on this thread aren’t going to be set back much by paying for routine medical care. That is not the case for everyone. What you consider pocket change for an office visit may be literally unaffordable for a low income family.</p>
<p>Birth control is not unaffordable to any full-time workers or anyone else really since there are low cost and free clinics. But, this case is about employed people and if they really want free morning after pills from their employer they can work elsewhere. But, I don’t know anyone who uses that as a job hunting criteria. Although, I did go to school with a girl who took a waitress job once for the dental insurance. </p>
<p>"Birth control is not unaffordable to any full-time workers or anyone else really since there are low cost and free clinics. But, this case is about employed people and if they really want free morning after pills from their employer they can work elsewhere. But, I don’t know anyone who uses that as a job hunting criteria. Although, I did go to school with a girl who took a waitress job once for the dental insurance. "</p>
<p>I’m glad you said that Flossy because, it’s my opinion, that those complaining about ACA raising their premiums, deductibles and OOP who aren’t eligible for a subsid,y can also afford the additional cost . You all work and/or own your own businesses. </p>
<p>Those complaining about the cost of their individual policies can go get a job with employer paid health insurance if they want to pay less. </p>
<p>I hope to never hear you complain about your health insurance costs again. </p>
<p>Emily, a lot of small businesses are struggling these days and they are facing significant health care cost increases. The economy stinks and I blame ACA for some of that, btw and I realize that you distain business for some reason while pitying the poor. This strikes me as rather odd since the poor could benefit from a better business climate assuming they want jobs. Morning after pills are roughly the price of a large pizza so I do think most craft store cashiers could probably pay out of pocket for that if the need arises. Sorry. I don’t mind one bit if they complain, though. Although interestingly I haven’t heard a peep from a Hobby Lobby employee. WalMart workers are constantly grousing about something. But, at least it’s not BC. And, if you really think that everyone who makes just over poverty level wages should be just fine with paying more and getting less you are very out of touch with a lot of real people’s reality.</p>
<p>Flossy, say what?!
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<p>PP says: Costs vary from $30 to $65 for the morning-after pill and $500 to $900 for IUD insertion. And that’s PP.</p>
<p>Are we calling Hobby Lobby employees poor people?</p>
<p>Flossy, did you run the numbers on what a HL cashier brings home (ie, after taxes) on $9.50, assuming a 40 hour week, then considering some may get fewer hours? Don’t start conjecturing about overtime. Or how they can skip those trips to buy chips and soda. Just the facts, Ma’am.</p>
<p>I now see part time is 9.50, full is higher.</p>
<p>You try living on $9.00/hr and get back to me. </p>
<p>“Emily, a lot of small businesses are struggling these days and they are facing significant health care cost increases.”</p>
<p>Are we calling small business owners poor? </p>
<p>Misinformation check, you guys. Those are part-timers who probably are not insured by the company, anyway. Full-time HL cashiers make $14.50 which is amazingly high in retail and store management gets into the high 50’s annually.</p>
<p>$14.50 might be amazingly high in retail, but it’s amazingly low in money. That’s $29K a year. From that $29K the single mom who can’t use hormonal birth control and wants an IUD is supposed to easily come up with $600?</p>
<p>@Cardinal Fang “I doubt that the Hobby Lobby decision is going to save Hobby Lobby any noticeable amount of money.”</p>
<p>The irony here is that health insurance coverage that excludes birth control is more expensive than coverage with it because of the higher expected cost of insuring more baby deliveries is more than the cost of the birth control. The cost argument is completely bogus.</p>
<p>@Much2learn It doesn’t exclude birth control, it excludes 2 morning after pills and 2 IUD’s. I don’t understand the cost argument you are making at all but I would agree that it was bogus if anyone was making it. This was never about cost for either side. though.</p>