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<p>Yep, that makes all the difference in the world.</p>

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<p>I don’t blame firefighters and police officers or even cab drivers and pizza delivery drivers for not going into dangerous places unescorted.</p>

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<p>^^^^^^Huh? Do you mean you don’t blame them for NOT going into dangerous places unescorted? :confused:</p>

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<p>Ted Bundy was a charming good looking guy who happened to enjoy killing women. I am way past the normal looking guys cannot be killers who should die for their crimes threshhold.</p>

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<p>I never knew what Ted Bundy looked like. He looks a TV Show host.</p>

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<p>Jeffrey Dahmer looked like a nice, harmless young man also.</p>

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<p>I hope my post wasn’t misinterpreted by some of you. I am NOT sympathetic to Tsarnaev. I DO think he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I DO understand that the way a person looks may mask what’s going on inside. </p>

<p>My point was that he was normal, by all accounts, until his brother got hold of him. And as someone who knew a lot of teenage boys just like him, that’s frightening.</p>

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I think I made my views on this pretty understandable–I hope you don’t think this statement characterizes my views. And if not mine, who, exactly is “giving every possible excuse and sympathy to the people who do these things?” And who is it, exactly, who cares more about these people that other people who commit crimes, or who are victims of crimes?</p>

<p>I get awfully tired of this kind of comment when anybody dares to try to understand the motivation of a criminal, or expresses a recognition that the criminals are human beings, just like us in many ways. Those who think criminals are some kind of inhuman aliens are fooling themselves. In my opinion.</p>

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<p>Where is all this sympathy for the bomber that people are whining about? Saying he looks like a nice college kid is not expressing sympathy. Wondering whether other easily manipulated kids could have found themselves in a similar situation is not equivalent to feeling sympathetic. Trying to understand why something happened is not putting the criminal’s well being over the victims’. Painting people as terrorist sympathizers just because they do not have knee jerk wishes for blood thirsty vengeance is representative of a not so well-hidden agenda.</p>

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<p>After reading quite a bit about sociopaths/psychopaths recently, I would disagree with your statement. I believe they are akin to inhuman aliens. They are empty shells capable of tremendous evil with absolutely NO pangs of remorse or conscience whatsoever. From what I’ve read, they are basically born, not created, though circumstances can dictate the extent of their bad doings. But thankfully, they are the minority, even among criminals…</p>

<p>and I have no idea if either of the bombers fits this description.</p>

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<p>There are some criminals (like these two bombers) who could reasonably be considered “inhuman,” because what they did falls so far outside the boundaries of normal human behavior.</p>

<p>It is easier to rationalize criminals like thieves, and even people who kill in the heat of passion, because what they do is more like typical human behavior, but out of control. Needing money badly and resorting to thievery, or being so angry at a specific person because of something awful they did to you, well, we all probably have at least fantasized about doing similar things.</p>

<p>Plotting to kill and maim innocent people we don’t know, and carrying it out, is so outside the realm of what any of us would entertain for any reason. There is no rational or forgivable justification for it.</p>

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<p>“Where is all this sympathy for the bomber that people are whining about?”</p>

<p>Why is having a disagreement with other people’s opinions “whining”? Or is that just a way to condescend to those who don’t agree?</p>

<p>“Saying he looks like a nice college kid is not expressing sympathy. Wondering whether other easily manipulated kids could have found themselves in a similar situation is not equivalent to feeling sympathetic.”</p>

<p>When the gist of someones post is to try to show that other easily manipulated kids could have done this, and looking for reasons why it is not their fault…it appears sympathetic. Rationalizing the mothers reaction by comparing her to other nuts, even as it becomes clearer that she has culpability, appears sympathetic. Ignoring the obvious, that this is a common act in Muslim countries, of extremism, and trying to find any other reason for it, appears sympathetic.</p>

<p>“Trying to understand why something happened is not putting the criminal’s well being over the victims’.”</p>

<p>Was that said?</p>

<p>“Painting people as terrorist sympathizers just because they do not have knee jerk wishes for blood thirsty vengeance is representative of a not so well-hidden agenda.”</p>

<p>Whatever is that supposed to mean?</p>

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<p>What is being reported about the “friends” is baffling. The story is that they did not have advance knowledge of the bombing, and did not know that Tsarnaev was involved until they recognized the picture the police released. Finding the backpack with fireworks shells, they realized that he was responsible. Rather than being shocked and horrified, they undertook to remove the evidence incriminating Tsarnaev. Stupidly, because of course the police would interview the roommate, and of course the roommate would tell them that the “friends” had removed a backpack and a laptop. Does this story make sense to anyone?</p>

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<p>^^^^It does sound crazy. But as we’ve seen already, there’s no telling what the REAL story is.</p>

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<p>I think one of the ways it may appear that some are sympathizing with bomber 2, is by suggesting he was a regular college student unduly influenced by his manipulative older brother. As if he was simply an innocent. </p>

<p>Imho, a “regular” young man of 19 would not submit to murdering anyone, let alone innocent kids at a public event simply to appease a sibling, it would have to fit with his own belief system, desire to take this action. </p>

<p>If in fact bomber 2 was manipulated by bomber 1 and truly hadn’t realized how this would kill and maim others, then he would be sobbing at the harm their actions wrought, he’d be horrified and guilt ridden at the thought of a child and young adults (like him) having been killed by his actions. We did not see that. We saw a young man who gave his reason for the actions as anger at the U.S. for involvement in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed Muslims. NO REMORSE. This was no innocent college kid. And let’s be real, no a regular college student would not be so simply turned into a killer or terrorist.</p>

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<p>Have you guys seen the Facebook groups to “free Jahar?” Like Mumia.</p>

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<p>^ yes it claims his innocence, which is pretty absurd since he’s confessed to the bombings</p>

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<p>I really think that, before they commit this sort of crime, the death penalty is less of a deterrent than life in prison without parole. There are young men with a martyr complex. They dream of dying a “hero’s” death and really believe the nonsense about being rewarded in heaven by God for murder. </p>

<p>To somebody 19, the thought of spending 50-60 years in prison with no hope of ever getting out may seem less “glamorous” than dying fighting for some cause.</p>

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<p>One whole street in Inman Sq is being investigated by FBI. The kids on street slashed tires of a neighbor’s car when she complained about their soccer games on street. The dad let old oil spill in the street, ignoring neighbor’s requests for filth and blocking traffic. The more I learn, the more I feel this is a disturbed family problem.</p>

<p>Of course, the fact that the worm lives a block away, and we bought his furnishings on this street, brings it home.</p>