Aftermath of Boston bombing - Half truths and fantastic tales

<p>Personally, I think torture and suicide bombing are more alike than they are different, but perhaps others have a different moral scale than I do.</p>

<p>Its not so difficult for us who can discern the difference between an enemy combatant who has been captured in a war zone and an 8 year old boy cheering for his father at a race. </p>

<p>Maybe some have a different moral scale than I do.</p>

<p>Its amazing the moral relativism in our society today.</p>

<p>argbargy, do you have any moral objections to torture that American soldiers have experience in Vietnam? How about somewhere like Andersonville during the Civil War?</p>

<p>This sheds some light on the hat-1’s visit to Dagestan:</p>

<p>[Exclusive:</a> Dagestani Relative of Tamerlan Tsarnaev Is a Prominent Islamist](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-dagestani-relative-tamerlan-tsarnaev-prominent-islamist-171006979.html]Exclusive:”>http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-dagestani-relative-tamerlan-tsarnaev-prominent-islamist-171006979.html)</p>

<p>Has anyone else heard that his remains could not “travel” to Russia without a passport? What? He was there apparently getting one, and now it is “lost”?</p>

<p>Isn’t there a procedure in Massachusetts for burying unclaimed remains?</p>

<p>The body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev has been laid to rest somewhere outside of Massachusetts, according to a funeral home official briefed on the situation. Worcester police said the remains of the 26-year-old have been “entombed."</p>

<p>Worcester police, whose chief, Gary J. Gemme, on Wednesday publicly appealed for someone to step forward and end the controversy that cost his department some $30,000 in extra expenses…</p>

<p>‘‘We are not barbarians; we bury the dead,” Gemme said on Thursday.</p>

<p>He has been buried in an undisclosed location according to the news. It’s in the US.</p>

<p>I think it’s better for everybody if the location stays undisclosed.</p>

<p>Yes. Am glad it is and hopefully will forever remain undisclosed.</p>

<p>If they decide to draw a perimeter around the location, nobody would ever find the exact spot.</p>

<p>They did draw a perimeter…the US.</p>

<p>The F.B.I. did not tell the Boston police about the 2011 warning from Russia about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bombings, the city’s police chief said Thursday during the first public Congressional hearing on the terrorist attack.
Had his department learned about the tip, in which Russian officials said that Mr. Tsarnaev had embraced radical Islam and intended to travel to Russia to connect with underground groups, “we would certainly look at the individual,” Commissioner Davis told the House Homeland Security Committee. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/us/boston-police-werent-told-fbi-got-warning-on-tsarnaev.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/us/boston-police-werent-told-fbi-got-warning-on-tsarnaev.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If Boston law enforcement had this information on Tsarnaev they might have knocked on his door following the bombings. Why not share information so that local law enforcement can monitor over time?</p>

<p>I sincerely doubt the police would have contacted Tsarnaev. The Boston area is extremely diverse. For example, in the days after the media spent time chasing a Saudi kid who had been questioned - apparently because he was hurt in the bombing - and that led to cameras confronting his Saudi friends (some of whom left the country). Around the corner from my house, a guy was arrested in connection with the Times Sq. bombing attempt. He might have been Lebanese - the owner of the station is and is well-known supporter of Town sports and charities (so people rallied for him when the media descended). Heck, some of the bin Ladens lived in the Boston area.</p>

<p>I can walk down the streets and not hear English. I might hear Russian or some other European language - yesterday was something from Scandinavia - or any variety from around the world. My neighbors include Iranians - or I should say Iranian-Americans. </p>

<p>I would imagine that if you live in a place where it’s mostly a variety of English speakers - and maybe Spanish speakers - then it might seem easier to focus on this guy or that guy. But not here. I know these guys were Chechen but they were caught near the Armenian shopping area and I don’t see how you could tell the difference.</p>

<p>A report that some guy might have contacted militants doesn’t mean it translate to anything on the local level. I read the police statements as a typical “blame the other guy” sort of thing. I note, for example, that Boston is not Cambridge is not Watertown and Commissioner Davis - who is now being talked up for a run for governor (who knows?) - has no authority in those places but acted as the general spokesperson for the local police. Not sure why that happened, if it was a plan or what. </p>

<p>When people have been arrested here for terror related actions, it has been through federal agencies involved in following bomb makers and the like. (I may not be completely accurate on this; I’m working from memory and can think of 2, maybe 3 cases, all in the suburbs and all, as I remember, federal cases.) </p>

<p>And finally, remember the timing: they had no idea who the bombers were until they combed over surveillance tape. They didn’t know it was a Chechen - and why exactly would a Chechen attack the US is still an open question - or what and it was hours after they posted the pictures that havoc broke loose.</p>

<p>There are reports he was buried in Virginia. There are plenty of folks in Virginia who will be convinced he will rise up in a Muslim zombie apocalypse.</p>

<p>Jane Richard, the little girl whose older brother died in the blast, just had her 11th operation. A six year old should never have to suffer like that–hey, nobody should ever have to suffer like that.</p>

<p>cartera, apparently there are plenty of folks in Massachusetts who also believe in the Muslim zombie apocalypse, which is why the move to Virginia was forced. Interesting story of how it happened:</p>

<p>[Virginia</a> woman who coordinated Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s burial says protests showed America at its worst](<a href=“http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/05/10/virginia-woman-who-coordinated-tamerlan-tsarnaev-burial-says-protests-showed-america-its-worst/OHozKZfy2aIOsYgEjULRRN/story.html]Virginia”>http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/05/10/virginia-woman-who-coordinated-tamerlan-tsarnaev-burial-says-protests-showed-america-its-worst/OHozKZfy2aIOsYgEjULRRN/story.html)</p>

<p>I can’t help but agree with her. I don’t seem to recall any burial controversy regarding Adam Lanza, good white Amurrican boy that he was.</p>

<p>Hmmm…where does it state the protest was because he was a Muslim??..I wouldn’t want this scum buried in my town…religion has nothing to do with it.</p>

<p>poor speedbump…a victim I guess in some minds</p>

<p>Good point, LasMa. As an aside, it was just reported that they are going to demolish Sandy Hook Elementary school and rebuild, assuming the voters approve (can’t imagine otherwise). Understandable.</p>

<p>“I can’t help but agree with her. I don’t seem to recall any burial controversy regarding Adam Lanza, good white Amurrican boy that he was.”</p>

<p>Really - where is he buried?? How about Timothy McVeigh?</p>