My daughter is considering to attend UCLA school of business.
UCLA does not have an undergraduate business major (it has “business economics”).
A student majoring in business or economics will not be “behind” in college if s/he has not completed calculus in high school. Completion of precalculus is needed because calculus is required for those majors (statistics is also required, but some colleges require a calculus-based statistics course, so high school AP statistics may not be accepted as a substitute).
That school do not offer undergraduate degrees.
If your daughter is applying as an undergrad, he UCLA school of business won’t confer an undergrad degree as they don’t offer one.
Are you prepping her for grad school applications?
@gyanbone: did your daughter get 95-100% in Algebra1? Was it algebra 1 honors or “regular” algebra 1?
A strong sequence for a business school would end in Precalculus Honors in 12th grade.
It’s EITHER stats OR AP Stats, and it’s better to wait till college to take a calculus-based stats class. AP Stats can be a GPA booster and a good complement to another math class.
Please note that for a top MBA, it’s better to have a “traditional” (Liberal arts) major than to have a business undergrad degree. So if her goal is Stanford or Harvard MBA, she should plan to major in one (or a combination of) Math/applied math/stats/data science/CS, foreign languages, economics, engineering, philosophy/ethics, environmental science/physics/chemistry… and have internships where she hones her skillset.
Algebra 2 and Geometry are both tricky. I would not advice both of them in the same year. Is it possible to take a summer class?
My D’s track:
Geometry in 8th (Algebra 2 at home)
Algebra 2 in 9th (Trig at home)
Pre-Cal + AP Cal (at 10th)
Cal AB in 11th
Cal BC in 12th
I am very conservative.
My D1 (and likely D2 too) has the following schedule:
8th: Algebra 1
9th: Geometry AC
10th: Algebra 2 AC
11th: PreCalc AC
12th: AP Calc BC
Some students took Geometry in the summer or test it out to catch up.
And my college grad…who majored in engineering did the following in HS…
9th grade- algebra 1
10th grade- Geometry
11th grade- Algebra 2
12th grade- precalc
She didn’t take calculus until college.
The usual order is geometry then algebra2, but some schools use the reverse. I would go with the order usually used at your school if taking them in sequence.
If she wants to double up, go ahead and double up, but I would only do this if she did pretty well in algebra1 and is very comfortable with it. If you have any concerns about her mastery of algebra 1, then it might be best not to speed her up. Have you discussed this with her algebra1 teacher?
It seems especially silly to “speed her up” on essentials like Algebra 2 and Geometry for an elective class that serves as a complement to precalculus (or a replacement for students who already have precalculus and won’t/can’t take calculus.)
At our school, there is a stats class which students can take prior to AP stats, but it isn’t required and my impression is that most students didn’t take a prior stats course.
You and your daughter should both be aware that admission to any highly selective program is extremely competitive and that taking AP stats isn’t going to ensure any admittances.
I am confused as to why she can’t take AP Stats as a second course either junior or senior year. Does your HS require stats and then AP Stats? I would have her double up with stats, rather than with math.
What does her GC say? Is she getting on an honors track now (take honors geometry with the 9th graders)? That might be a better option than to take both geometry and algebra 2. But if she is a very strong math student that just didn’t do well in 7th grade math or on the algebra placement test, perhaps it does make sense for her to double up.
It is not clear to me why you would switch the order of algebra and geometry? Does the new SAT cover algebra 2 topics?
She will be fine. I would also ask the GC if the UCs look more at courses taken or GPA.
How about for NYU Stern? Does it offer for undergraduates?
IMO, she should take precalc the year after Algebra 2. She can take geometry either the same year as Alg 2 is she is a strong math student or take geometry in 10th, algebra 2 in 11th and precalc in 12. Finally, she can take AP Stats concurrently with precalc in 12th grade. She really needs to complete precalc so that she is prepared for college calc. AP Stats should not be the priority. But if it works into her schedule, fantastic! She shouldn’t have to take a full year of stats before AP stats. If so, just let that plan go!!!
In my opinion, she can get accepted to NYU as an undergrad without calculus in high school…but that is my opinion only.
Nyu Stern for a bachelors, will not care about stats. They will want As in all math clases to precal (or calc). They will also want to see strong classes in English, history, economics, and language, plus the usual bio, chem, physics sequence.
Stern isn’t a usual business school in that, like warton and Mendoza, it’s basically a combination of liberal arts and business.
I don’t think taking a core subject for the first time over the summer is the best idea.
There’s not enough time for a good foundation, for the typical kid.
Plus summer is when ECs get more time.
Checking for clarity. This student is a rising HS sophomore, and you are choosing her COLLEGE major…and picking schools based on what you think that will be?
Here is the link to NYU Stern. As you can see, the vast majority of their actual business degrees are MBAs.
OP- the college your child (actually you) is thinking of attending is irrelevant to choosing the math now.
She needs to learn the math. Even if she were to apply to the very elite universities the decision to have a more balanced course distribution will not hurt her. To double up on math she needs to eliminate another course. Consider that as a negative. HS is not only college preparation it is an overall education. She can learn math later but it could be more beneficial for her to have a nonscience-math course instead.
American education is meant to be well rounded. It doesn’t matter what field an adult ultimately ends up in, the education needs to include subjects “of no use” to it. People are many faceted, not just the field they like best or are best in. Based on your language usage I suspect you are not American born. Embrace the US system that educates, not merely prepare for a job.