<p>It is not difficult to prove not true if it found out that she never had a date with the guy, never met the guy, changed her story several times etc. </p>
<p>The horrendous advice these young females are getting is amazing. Instead of listening to advocates for a cause and talking publicly like idiots, they should be listening to lawyers before they open their mouths. Well, actually the first thing they should be doing is filing a real police report. </p>
<p>Here is the problem with saying things about someone or some entity unless you have something of substance to present behind the allegations:</p>
<p>Why would a woman file a police report if the report is going to end up in the garbage? </p>
<p>Women aren’t stupid. They know the odds are very low anything is going to happen to the rapist. In the mean time, they should put themselves through more agony by dealing with the police? </p>
<p>A woman is raped. She goes to the police. She loses the case. Now she is told she wasn’t really raped.</p>
<p>That Wisconsin girl who was gang raped was told she was gang raped by a nurse. That same nurse said she wasn’t as the case moved forward. How was that girl no longer raped after the fact? </p>
<p>Those 3 Columbia girls said they were raped by the same guy. The guy is walking around the campus along with the three girls today. There is no conviction. So, therefore the girls weren’t raped? </p>
<p>OK, you can think and believe that in your own world and in your life there is no effect. </p>
<p>However, to dismiss and assume that it does not have an effect on someone else, even if based on a lie spread around the Internet, to me is too caviler. You have not a clue the potential effects, but whatever, it can sure be said it does not help. In my book, someone else’s life being affected based on a lie or exaggeration is not something to be excused, as no big deal. </p>
<p>“OK, you can think and believe that in your own world and in your life there is no effect.”</p>
<p>Well, I advise people on their resumes for a living. I do career counseling as well as grad school applications, which I’ve been doing since 1999. So I’m not just basing this on me.</p>
<p>Self-fulflling prophecy of why to do nothing and not file. A young female gets raped and if based on this advice she does not file a report and people think that is helpful. No sure what to make of that. </p>
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<p>Based on the legal definition maybe she was not or there was not enough for a conviction. We do not convict people simply by word of mouth and there are standards of what is deemed rape. </p>
<p>And just because someone says it, does not mean it is legally so. Jackie and Dunham seem to be proving that big time. </p>
<p>Look, if a person is robbed but the suspect is not convicted, they were still robbed. A murder victim doesn’t come back to life if no one is convicted for the murder.</p>
<p>Do you realize that you really have not a clue because you are not asking the right people the potential damage. You are on the outside looking in. How about the inside, decision people, which is what I know about. </p>
<p>I am the person who screens (actually I get the last set) of final resumes for a position after three previous screens. And after 28+ years of screening professional resumes, I can tell you that when it comes to serious positions, there is not much one can hide from background checkers and investigators. You would be shocked about how many “connections” we have made in the screening that the applicant does not know about, which negatively affected their application even though that stuff was left off their resume. </p>
<p>So go ahead and think you are helping people hide stuff, as you probably are for some, but not for as much as you think… One thing I can tell you is you do not know what you do not know, i.e., you have not a clue what negative information was found out about an applicant you think you helped hide stuff about. My investigators are way better than just dropping a line off here and there. </p>
<p>My point is a lie can really hurt someone years later and should not be dismissed casually and you would not have one clue that occurred. I do it every month. I wonder now how many career counselors get paid thinking they hide stuff from us that we have found and never tell them? </p>
<p>I was just told today a friend’s mother-in-law was robbed of $75,000 worth of jewelry. Cops have an excellent idea who the robber is. They talked to the alleged robber. The alleged robber is not going to confess. Nothing else the police can do… Mother-in-law was robbed.</p>
<p>When questioned on a Slate podcast about her choice to not speak with the accused, Erdely said, “There’s no doubt that — people seem to know who these people are….*nside a frat house…[p]eople are living lives closely with one another and it seems impossible to imagine that people didn’t know about this.”</p>
<p>This is meaningless. People seem to know who these people are? Can you string together any more words that sound like a complete thought and say nothing? She is so done.</p>
<p>Of course you can go around calling someone a rapist, a robber or a murderer all day long if you want. Tell all your friends. Tell the papers. Of course, you might be sued for defamation. But if you have no money to go after, they won’t sue. So go ahead. </p>
<p>That’s why TV, radio and newspapers are rather careful to use the word ‘alleged’ or ‘accused’. </p>
<p>The problem with comparing robbery and rape is that robbery is often clear-cut, and rape is not. </p>
<p>Too many cases are initially called rape by the accuser when legally they are not. That is just a fact. </p>
<p>Even the 1 in 5 rape stat is a falsehood. It is not 1 in 5 rapes; it is 1 in 5 unwanted encounters ranging from unwanted kissing, unwanted hand holding, unwanted touching and all the way to actual rape. We already discussed this in other threads so I will stop here, as it off-topic for the is thread. </p>
<p>“There are 15,000 undergrads at UVA, 55% of whom are women. The one in five statistic means that 1,650 women will be raped at UVA in any given 4-year period. Not all of them who will be, have been raped yet, but sources say most are raped as freshmen and sophomores, so there should be at least say, 1,000 women there who have been raped. Their stories need to be told, as well.”</p>
<p>This seems crazy implausible. It makes me doubt the statistics.</p>
<p>Heck, Jesse Ventura won 1.8 million against a man who said he wished more American SEALs would die (or something). It was only said on the Bill O’Reilly show. The defendant was dead and the verdict was against the estate. <a href=“FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul”>FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul;
<p>Accusing a fraternity of hosting gang rape initiations if far, far worse and the Rolling Stone is a richer target.</p>
<p>Based on the legal definition maybe she was not or there was not enough for a conviction. We do not convict people simply by word of mouth and there are standards of what is deemed rape.</p>
<p>I read somewhere marital rape wasn’t recognized as a crime in all states until the early 1990s.
The first use of “acquaintance rape” is 1979.
In 1974 fraternity boys at Tailgate U weren’t capable of rape. That did not fit the definition. It wasn’t deemed rape.</p>
<p>There have always been acts of violence against women not recognized as rape. It was just assumed men had the right to women’s bodies. Is it correct UVA has never expelled a rapist? If so, does that mean nothing deemed rape has ever occurred at UVA? Is that where this thread is headed? Because that is right back to 1974, when nothing a fraternity boy did could possibly meet the “standard of what is deemed rape”.</p>
<p>By the way, the alleged robber was bonded. But you need a conviction to collect. The evidence is gone. There were no cameras. The robber had access to the house. The robber lied about her own address. </p>
<p>She is not going to be arrested. There is not going to be a conviction.</p>
Nothing else the police can do… Mother-in-law was robbed.</p>