Whats the admit rate for UT in state (not auto admit) vs OOS? I think the 10% is skewed because of the # of OOS rejections.
I’d be shocked if Rice admitted more than 50 students from any Texas public school when the overall admit rate is only 7.8%. If you look at the freshman student directory and where they came from, their yield from the one school would have to be a statistical anomaly.
I don’t think it’s reported specifically, but I believe you can figure it out mathematically from CDS.
So…according to state law 75 percent of admitted students have to be in state auto admit. In 2023-2024 there were 19,253 Admits. So 3/4 of that number is 14,349. That’s your required number of auto admit in state.
So…that leaves 4,814 accepted students who are not auto-admit…including both in-state and OOS.
You can see from CDS that the number of OOS students admitted was 2,482. So the number of in-state non auto admit students admitted was
4814-2452=2332
The number of in-state applicants was 38,985
Which means that the in-state non auto admit applicants were
38,985- 14,439 = 24,546
So the acceptance rate for in state non auto admit would be
2332/24,546 = 9.5%
This lines up with what I hear college consultants saying…ie that the in state non auto admit rate is about 10 percent.
Yes I’d be shocked too. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of them admitting more than a few from any school. I’m not sure where the idea of 50 from one school came from?
Right. So the idea that someone in Texas (where Rice is very popular) could be admitted when they’re not in the top 10% is incredibly low.
If the OP is ranked 300 (or even 100) out of 1700 plus kids, the chances of them getting accepted is highly, highly unlikely when there are probably a ton more kids who have similar ECs and better grades.
Chances of anyone getting admitted are very low. ON that we agree. My point is about top 10 percent being specifically significant. It depends on the school. At competitive schools being in the top quarter of the class (As OP is) can give you a much better chance than being in the top 10 percent at other schools. In no case is it “easy” to get in. But the top 10 thing is somewhat arbitrary…you have to consider the school they come from.
Rice specifically says that class rank is very important.
If the school says something is very important, it’s probably a good indication that no matter how competitive the high school is, if you’re not ranked near the top relative to your peers at the school, you’re probably not getting in unless you have some extraordinary hook.
Again I feel like I’ve said I agree with you on “near the top” a. dozen times now but whatever. You have to consider the school that is all I keep saying. Only one of the 3 rice admits from my daughter’s school this year was top 10 percent. But the other two were also high achievers.
The valedictorian in my school district is heading to Georgia Tech. The salutatorian is going to Harvard. The popularity of STEM these days has changed the competitiveness of many schools. In the 80s and 90s, law and medicine were popular, and the engineering schools were easy to get into. Now it is Tech and Finance.
Texas Tech is assured admission at top 20% rank if you have a 24 ACT or 1180 SAT, according to First Time in College | Apply | Undergraduate Admissions | TTU . Do you have an ACT or SAT score?
UT Dallas does not have assured admission outside of top 10% rank:
Freshman Admissions: Criteria - Office of Admission and Enrollment | The University of Texas at Dallas .
University of Oklahoma does not appear to have any assured admission criteria: Requirements & Decisions
They may not be “guaranteed” admission in the strictest sense but I don’t know how much more guaranteed you can really get if you apply to all three of these. All three of these schools are definitely safeties for this student…as in virtually guaranteed admission. Their overall acceptance rates are probably in the 70-85% range but if you look at acceptance rates of these schools from competitive high schools it is often close to 100 percent. At my child’s school, for example, over the last 5 years here are the admission stats for these schools:
UTD - 56 applied, 52 accepted
Texas Tech - 99 applied, 91 accepted
OU - 216 applied, 201 accepted
I’m all for students having safeties…OP is a strong student and these are all safeties. I would be shocked if he/she were not admitted to all 3 and I think they can safely assume with near 100 percent certainty that he/she will be admitted to at least 1 of them.
You have just 3 semesters of grades. Five are needed.
Can these GPAs and rigor get you in ? Yes
Will they ? Maybe. Likely not. UW most likely of these but the question is premature.
My two cents is there is more than one way to make sure you are admitted somewhere suitable. Like you can have an auto admit, which is good. You can apply somewhere very likely rolling or EA where you get admitted before RD, which is also good.
And if in fact you go with the second plan and unexpectedly it doesn’t work, then you can pivot to the first plan.
Most kids in my grade are especially gravitating towards medicine, engineering, and computer science. Pretty much all the kids that have done something one could consider exceptional in my grade are going into one of those three fields. Hardly any of my friends or acquaintances, all of whom are strong students, are really looking into business. Our high school is pretty STEM heavy