<p>Bus…did you actually read the rest of the post? The constitutional provisions of the Italian judicial system are sound, which is why I said:</p>
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<p>If you had continued to read and not taken that snippet out of context of the rest of the post, you would have found out that I said when a prosecutor goes rogue, the outcome is a nightmare. </p>
<p>I feel the United States has a fair justice system. Yet it has been proven that innocent men and women have wasted decades of their lives convicted for crimes they did not commit. What was the common thread? Prosecutors or investigators that had an agenda that was not the basis for the justice system to begin with. It does not make the system flawed, it makes the human beings behind the system flawed. There is a vast difference.</p>
<p>musicprnt, excellent post. People ought to remember that police and prosecutors in the US are ALLOWED to lie to suspects. It is considered a legitimate strategy. Prosecutors want to win. And unfortunately some of them don’t give a flying **** about justice or truth.</p>
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we can’t “blame” the Italian Justice Systems, frankly it is a pretty fair process </p>
<p>If you had continued to read and not taken that snippet out of context of the rest of the post, you would have found out that I said when a prosecutor goes rogue, the outcome is a nightmare."</p>
<p>I did read the post. I pointed out what I disagreed with. I didn’t have an issue with the rest. There is alot more to this system than a prosecutor gone rogue. There is shoddy science and police work, the system allowing people to be jailed without charge for a year, there is reprehensible police work, allowing information to flow freely to the press, and non-sequestered jurors. There apparently are so many people involved in this case doing things that we would consider highly unethical, that they would be fired or prosecuted for in the US.</p>
<p>As to whether suspects are “allowed” to lie–that’s complicated. Of course, they have the right to remain silent, and not say anything. They aren’t “allowed” to lie under oath (and a lawyer is not supposed to put a witness on the stand if he knows the witness will lie). But aside, from that, lying to the police might be part of a crime (perhaps interfering with an investigation), but I don’t think telling a police officer “I didn’t do it” would be successfully prosecuted as a separate crime.</p>
<p>I didn’t follow this case before, but having now read what passed for “reporting” on the case I am absolutely appalled. A few quotes from the Daily Mail article:
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<p>Mind you, these statements were made about a 20 year old young woman who had had ** exactly ** seven sexual partners in her entire life - a fact we know because the Italian prison authorities lied to her and told her she had AIDS, so she wrote out a list of every man she’d been with. (A whole other issue.)</p>
<p>I’ve never asked a woman - of any age - how many men she has slept with in her life. So I could be hopelessly misguided in this. But I’d venture to guess that if you drew a bell curve of the number of men every young American woman has slept with before their 21st birthday seven would fall somewhere in the fat part of the curve. (The “average” number of sexual partners people have appears to be difficult to pin down, even for people who try to study that sort of thing. [The</a> Myth, the Math, the Sex - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/weekinreview/12kolata.html]The”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/weekinreview/12kolata.html)) But I’m pretty sure that an attractive young woman with a “deep, abiding desire for casual sex” would have passed seven long before she arrived in Italy. Seriously.</p>
<p>So what does this all mean? Well, for one thing, it appears that before you lynch a girl you have to label her a slut. And that’s not really hard to do, from the looks of things. As the parent of a young American woman this has all given me a lot to be concerned about.</p>
<p>It is easier to see clearly the hopeless incompetence and corruption of the system in another country.</p>
<p>Maybe this can help people understand the depth of contempt that many foreigners feel towards the US legal system in many cases, such as in Texas.</p>
<p>With regard to the Italian vs. U.S. justice system: a system is a system and none of them are foolproof. In the end, a system is only as good as the people who are implementing it. Some will respect the letter of the law but not the spirit. Some will bend the system to the breaking point. Some will behave with the utmost honor and truthfulness. Some will merely be incompetent. For some the end justifies the means.</p>
<p>It is truly scary how the prosecutor decided that they were guilty and then was determined to manipulate the facts and the evidence to convict them. I have yet to see any account that describes a shred of evidence that they were involved. Since the real killer fled the country soon after the murder, they were lucky they were able to get him back for a conviction.</p>
<p>Imagine what would have happened if the prosecutor has simply waited for the DNA evidence, and maybe had had Knox and Sollecito followed and their phones tapped in the meantime. </p>
<p>The DNA evidence would have shown Guede’s DNA at the murder scene, no-one else’s. Guede was a known burglar - and indeed the house had been burgled and property stolen. Guede had been surprised during a previous burglary and had brandished a knife - and indeed Kercher had been stabbed to death. This would have been an easy case to solve … </p>
<p>… if the prosecution hadn’t got it wrong and forced a confession out of a young 20-year-old who was questioned for 53 hours over five days until she eventually told the police the nonsense they wanted to hear. </p>
<p>Why do you anti-Knox posters continue to focus on her alleged “suspicious activity” and “lies.” Who cares about any of that? If the glove don’t fit, you have to acquit! Meaning: there is absolutely NO single shred of any evidence whatsoever that ties her and Raffale to the crime. Burglary “staged”? So what? No evidence, none, nada, ingenting. She goes free under any system of justice.</p>
<p>Are there any people on the board who know if she would be extradited from the US? I mean, as a US citizen, to go back to Italy for double jeopardy?</p>