Yes, I agree. I was just summarizing the change revealed in the article.
the drop is pretty big, in a short time, no? I wasnât surprised by the 50%, but that it went from 2/3 to 50% in 1 year.
Not accurate.
Look at post 108 with the applicant/enrollment statistics.
Class of 2029 accepted/enrolled 1,156 through ED and Enrolled 682 through EA/RD.
The idea that a student editor equates that to âroughly halfâ I canât speak to. ![]()
so the article says class of 2026 is 2/3 ED and 2029 is 1/2 ED, not the Class of 28/29, wherein lies confusion, maybe.
it is possible the author (MD of newspaper, so letâs hope not) is wrong.
Sorry - confused - and maybe weâre saying the same thing.
| Class of '26 | Class of '29 | |
|---|---|---|
| ED Accepted/Enrolled | 1,209 | 1,156 |
| EA/RD Accepted | 3,176 | 3,402 |
| EA/RD Enrolled | 818 | 682 |
| EA/RD Enrolled % of Total | 40% | 37% |
Not sure where theyâre arriving at âAlmost 50%â.
The article is comparing the class of 2026 to 2029. Not the class of 2028 and 2029
âFor the class of 2026, Tulane extended just over 400 regular decision offers, bringing in a record low acceptance rate of only 8.4% overall. In comparison, the university offered around 1,300 early decision spots, making up more than two-thirds of the class.
For Tulaneâs class of 2029, the university extended around 1,100 regular decision offers â a massive jump from 403 offers three years prior â as well as about 2,300 early action admission offers. But Tulane still offered about 1,100 students early decision spots, which amounts to about half of the class of 2029âs enrollment. â
The author is mixing apples and oranges with the EA and RD numbers.
That too!!
Kent and Levyâs ED/RD acceptance rates for those 2 classes may be helpful:
So, from class of 2026 to class of 2029, the enrolled class size reduced by 9%, and while fewer were accepted ED for class of 2029 than for class of 2026, the portion of the enrolled class accepted ED actually increased by two percent for class of 2029, to 62%. The opposite of what I was trying to summarize from the article above (sorry!).
Looks like Tulane also experienced a drop in EA/RD yield, from close to 26% for class of 2026 to 20% for class of 2029. (Perhaps the increase in share of the class ED was accidental.)
Specific to TulaneâŚdoes anyone know the difference in acceptance rate from ED to EA? Seems like EA is getting lumped into RD here, unless Iâve misinterpreted.
The only recent CDS that lists out anything that would allow us to impute anything was for the freshman class of 2023. It gave specific ED and EA numbers which kinda-sorta allows you to calculate the RD numbers. I say kinda-sorta because someone could have applied EA and been deferred to RD and for the purposes below, not sure how the school might categorize that application. And if you take the total enroll and deduct the ED/EA numbers you get a negative 23 for RD. Clearly 100% ED acceptances donât enroll, etc etcâŚ
| Incoming Fall 2023 Class | |
|---|---|
| Total Applied | 27,936 |
| Total Admitted | 4,077 |
| Total Enrolled | 1,867 |
| Early Decision Applicants | 1,752 |
| Early Decision Acceptances | 1,193 |
| % Accepted/Enrolled | 68% |
| Early Action Applicants | 15,541 |
| Early Action Admitted | 2,614 |
| Early Action Enrolled | 697 |
| % Admitted | 17% |
| Calculated | |
| RD Applicants | 10,643 |
| RD Admitted | 270 |
| % Admitted | 2.5% |
Does your school have something like naviance, Maia, scoir? Ours shows that the number admitted ED and EA is exactly the same (!), and just about no-one admitted RD. So these numbers are not the same as the overall numbers @Mashinations posted, though those do also show a significant advantage of EA over RD. Our counselors specifically called out Tulane in a presentation earlier this year and said almost the entire class gets admitted early - both ED and EA - as one of the schools they urged people to get apps in for if they were interested. Note that they were not pressuring anyone into applying ED, just to get that in early. (There is pressure from Tulane though - when D19 applied there EA Tulane emailed and called a few times to try get her to change it to ED..)
When colleges accept applicants ED, they are assured that just about each and everyone of those admits will attend.
When applicants are accepted RD, colleges need to accept 3 to 4 students on average for each seat they want to fill, given current average yield rates.
Playing the game that Tulane and a few others are currently playing is a way of artificially inflating their selectivity ranking at the expense of parents and students who apply there to make them appear more selective than they really are.
And to think that Tulane got all uppity when applicants turned the tables on them. As much as I love New Orleans, I wouldnât waste an application on them. If they have no scruples about engaging in this practice, what other unscrupulous practices are they engaging in?
Respectfully disagree. ED is a contract between the student and the school. Tulane has every right to enforce that contract. You can apply and get into Tulane EA or RD (although RD is quite hard). Tulane is doing nothing wrong, but if you donât like their approach, apply elsewhere.
They canât enforce the contract. And in the article there was no punishment for the students who reneged on their ED acceptance. The âpunishmentâ was given to innocent HS students who did nothing wrong.
Considering the bad press this article created, I wonder if Tulane will behave differently going forward.
Itâs not a contract in the legal sense; they canât sue the applicant for damages.
Calling ED a contract is akin to applicants calling their activity an NPO. Just because people mangle the language doesnât mean their definition enters the dictionary
Of course Tulane has the right to enforce the contract. And they also have the right to punish future applicants who did not violate the contract, as they did, because they donât like what previous students from that school did. Thatâs not called enforcing the contract. In fact, Iâm not aware that Tulane has done anything to enforce the contract with regard to students who actually broke the agreement.
So, Iâm not sure what it is that youâre disagreeing with.
I can guarantee Tulane didnât take this action lightly. I would be shocked if this wasnât a pattern at the offending high schools. It very much is a contract. Of course a college isnât going to sue to enforce it, but it is a document signed by all parties. The offending schools will now take their obligation re ED more seriously.
IMO the âpunishmentâ sends a message to all high school counselors to make sure that their students and parents are understanding the ED rules. And it only impacts ED, not EA.
I donât remember if this article Early decision school: Tulane reveals new admissions data amid scrutiny ⢠The Tulane Hullabaloo was shared but there are some notable quotes:
âTulane clarified that it regularly releases students from early decision commitments for financial reasons â those who determine that even with Tulaneâs financial aid offer, they still could not afford to attend. Over 50 students were released from early decision for financial reasons in the last application cycle with no repercussions. â
âStrecker said the pause on early decision âis intended to give schools time to reinforce the importance of a promise signed by students, families and counselors.â
âFor Tulaneâs class of 2029, the university extended around 1,100 regular decision offers â a massive jump from 403 offers three years prior â as well as about 2,300 early action admission offers. But Tulane still offered about 1,100 students early decision spots, which amounts to about half of the class of 2029âs enrollment.
This means that while Tulane has begun extending more regular decision offers, roughly half of the current first-year class are still early decision applicants.â