<p>*not to knock LeTourneau specifically, but after I looked at their accepted student numbers, I got suspicious. </p>
<p>The school claims a 88% acceptance rate–which is unusually high. Yet the average MCAT score of their applicants is a MCAT 29.2. This is a full 2 points BELOW the national average of allopathic med school matriculants for 2009-2010.</p>
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<p>Do we know what if they are talking about their US MD admissions? Or any admissions…such as DO or int’l?</p>
<p>Just as long as they don’t become my doctors, they can go to whatever school they want.</p>
<p>^^^ I honestly can’t think of a single time that I’ve asked my doctor or our pediatrician what they think about evolution (or beliefs in general or politics). It’s never even occurred to me. Until very recently I hadn’t even asked where they went to school (undergrad or med school). But to each our own I suppose.</p>
<p>^^ every doctor I (my family) know have full bios available in their office and/or online. I can’t believe anyone would put their health in the hands of someone without knowing this basic info :(</p>
<p>^^^ The info is probably available (I doubt it delves into beliefs or politics! 
), but honestly, no, I don’t give a hoot. We found our doctors via personal references. That means a whole lot more to me - that and the fact that we are perfectly happy with them in person. Should a deeper issue occur I would also expect to find any specialists via references - not checking bios.</p>
<p>When I first started investigating the whole pre-med thing for middle son (roughly two years ago), none of my personal contacts of family and friends (mostly white collar, but not medical) knew where their personal doctors did their undergrad or med school. I think I’m in good company.</p>
<p>Different strokes for different folks. You choose via bios. I’ll choose via positive experiences on the job.</p>
<p>Have you heard of St. Louis university? The campus is gorgeous and they have an accelerated medical scholars program if the homeschool kid would take interest. Of course, I am sure that she may not be that immersed in medicine to truly know whether she wants to pursue med school or not, so take that med scholar program with a grain of salt. The program is legit, and it’s a private school that is co-ed. I believe it is a catholic school like Baylor, and to be honest, if I had gotten their advertisement beforehand, I would have definitely tried my luck at getting some good scholarships from that school. It would be worth it for the child of your neighbor’s to look up that school and even pay it a visit because the visit is actually the one thing that wins a lot of people over (so I’ve heard). Hope this info helps!</p>
<p>Liveulife–</p>
<p>St. Louis University is Catholic; Baylor is conservative Baptist. Not quite the same thing.</p>
<p>Baylor is Southern Baptist which is even more conservative than many other Christian schools. </p>
<p>It has loosened some of its policies as of late but it wasn’t too long ago that dancing was forbidden on campus.</p>
<p>Otherwise it is a very good school that prepares students well for Med school. My S has a number of Med school classmates that are Baylor grads.</p>
<p>It does not appear that their science curriculum is faith based.</p>
<p>From the Baylor website:</p>
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<p>I think it would be quite difficult to get highly credentialed scientists to teach at a school that forbids teaching evolution. JMO</p>
<p>Thank you all for helping me get some info to my neighbors" daughter.</p>
<p>I am encouraging her to check out this website but I am not sure her parents will let her. Actually, I have mentioned this site to her parents, but I am not sure they have ever checked it out themselves from some of the very basic things they seem not to know.</p>
<p>I would have thought maybe Baylor would have been a good suggestion, but I am not sure they will even consider it because the school does not limit itself with regards to the issue on teaching evolution.</p>
<p>A student will get a very poor education in all aspects of science if they attend extreme evangelical fundamentalist schools like Cedarville or Liberty. These people do not just take issue with the question of whether humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor in Biology classes, they are “young Earth creationists (YEC)” who consider all branches of conventional science to be “evolution” and basically claim that just about everything we know of a scientific nature is wrong. In Geology they claim the Earth is only 6.000 years old and the fossils we find are all the remains of plants and animals buried in Noah’s flood. They claim that Physicists who use radiometric methods to date rocks at millions of years old are all wrong due to a faulty understanding of Nuclear Physics, despite the fact we use that exact same theory to generate electricity all the time.</p>
<p>They claim everything taught in Astronomy courses are lies from Satan and the reason we can see objects millions of light years away in a 6.000 year old Universe is because the speed of light used to be much higher than it is now. They totally reject Big Bang Cosmology. Every aspect of every science is taught at these schools in a way to make it conform to their belief in a 6000 year old Universe and a global flood.</p>
<p>I would also doubt their claims about medical school placement. I graduated from a U.S. allopathic medical school and never as a medical student, resident or medical practice have I encountered some one who attended one of these schools.</p>
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<p>No matter where they end up sending their daughter, I would recommend seeing a list of where recent graduates got accepted to med school and the stats those students had (MCAT and GPA). I’ve asked for this at the secular schools we’ve visited and all but one were willing to share. For that one we didn’t get to see the med school adviser as it was a last minute visit.</p>
<p>That said, I do know students from Liberty who have gone on to med school, so whether one agrees with their stance on science or not, they do get students accepted to med schools. They also have medical research available at Liberty if I remember one parent’s assessment correctly (and I’m pretty sure I do). The research she was talking about involved Alzheimers.</p>
<p>Grin . You obviously haven’t heard the extreme conservatives talking about what a liberal university Baylor is!!! Their science is not faith based. Both my husband and I graduated from there in the 80’s. He is a doctor. It was a very good program then. We recently went on a visit and were VERY impressed by all of their new science facilities. My husband wanted to go back to school. They have also spent a bunch of money on research and have tons of grants and research facilities they have been talking about in our alumni magazine. I think it would be a good compromise if they don’t mind evolution being mentioned in the science courses. She wouldn’t be an outcast for her more conservative beliefs, if she can handle discussion about other options. Many conservatives don’t like that about Baylor. I love it, but then I grew up as a Methodist!!! No, we couldn’t dance on campus when I went, but believe me we danced a ton on that suspension bridge. We had a TON of campus dances and parties. They just had to be held off campus in the city. It wasn’t a big deal. </p>
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Baylor is Southern Baptist which is even more conservative than many other Christian schools. </p>
<p>It has loosened some of its policies as of late but it wasn’t too long ago that dancing was forbidden on campus.</p>
<p>Otherwise it is a very good school that prepares students well for Med school. My S has a number of Med school classmates that are Baylor grads.</p>
<p>It does not appear that their science curriculum is faith based.</p>
<p>Every med. student is well prepared for Med. School. Otherwise, he would not be accepted. You cannot say that one UG is different from another in this respect. Those who are not well prepared, are not getting into Med. School.</p>
<p>* the faculty in the Biology Department at Baylor University, Waco, TX, teach evolution throughout the biology curriculum. We are in accordance with the American Association for Advancement of Science’s statement on evolution. We are a science department, so we do not teach alternative hypotheses or philosophically deduced theories that cannot be tested rigorously." *</p>
<p>Eadad…it doesn’t look like the bio dept is forbidden from teaching evolution…or am I misreading?</p>
<p>Thank you, all of you, for all of your input. It is really helping me help my young friend devise a strategy.</p>