<p>Then again, on paper, on music clips, or artistic slides, she may have looked like a matured individual. Once the faculty met her in real life, that may have been a different story. Like, it takes while to get to know someone you know. Its difficult to extract a person’s maturity level just by reading an application letter.</p>
<p>Maybe she did a few things wrong like cry out…“Ew, boobs!” or another example may be the faculty members saw her picking her nose or doing things with peer classmates that weren’t up to their high maturity level I dont know.</p>
<p>The fact is, she was admitted because at that time and moment in the eyes of the admissions/faculty office, she was mature…maybe only on paper. Once you get to teach them however, they may turn out drastically different than what once you imagined her to be. Face to face interactions in real life gives you a whole lot more insight into a person than just a short time interview/audition process.</p>
<p>EDIT: apologize if i make absolutely no sense…no excuses here, i’m dumb.</p>
<p>My point is that sometimes someone looks good on paper, has been seen as special, has maybe been given some slack in the past because of age and experience, but when it comes down to it, they may not have been as prepared, or as well qualified in the environment to which they were accepted.</p>
<p>And it appears Yale saw this almost right away, but gave her a chance to grow but that didn’t happen in Yale’s eyes.</p>
<p>I graduated from one of the Yale graduate schools (in the arts) many years ago. It was not unusual for a student to be dropped due to the student’s inability to keep up with the program (yes, immaturity, but really the inability to understand the depth of the art at that time in their lives). We had twenty-three year olds dropped from our program. </p>
<p>In that case, if your going to take that measured risk and knowingly gobble up 50K in tuition from this particularly student, give this student a break and HELP him mature, provide counseling support, dedicate staffers to give him extra attentions he needs, be more lenient!</p>
<p>hehe, thats what Yale should be doing. “Oops, you stink, I’ll just take your 50k and tell you to get more Mature, and in the future you can come back again so I can take another 50K from you” :)</p>
<p>Yeah, and everyone is assuming that she was immature. Too many assumptions!</p>
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<p>Or maybe she hasn’t been given slack in the past because of age? Maybe she was prepared? Maybe she was qualified? Who knows! Well, Yale knows why. Stop assuming. Maybe Yale was wrong? OMG but no that’s never a possibility, right?
Anyway, I just think it seems unfair on the MONEY side of it, like it cost her 50k to attend and she just gets dismissed. If it’s not based on grades, then to me it’s unfair. But htat’s my opinion so whatever.</p>
<p>They gave a full academic year to “mature” or whatever Yale was asking for. That is a long time, to be honest. Do you think Yale would just willynilly kick someone out without some sort of reasoning behind it?</p>
<p>And I would bet that in coming INTO the program, you are made aware that the school can dismiss you from it if they don’t feel you are capable. If she was doing so well, why in the world would they ask her to leave? It looks good for them, gets them great publicity to have a “wunderkid” in their midst. So I would gather that she just wasn’t up tp snuff, and Yale saw that and gave her a full school year to prove them wrong. She didn’t.</p>
<p>Masters programs aren’t just about grades, is about mastering the subject, which are two different things, something that is much deeper, and yes, does take some maturity. </p>
<p>People are kicked out of masters programs all the time, and they know going in that that is a possiblity. Yale seems to have seen that this student wasn’t ready, and wouldn’t very likely be ready, so they told her to get more education in order to be ready for the masters program. Maybe the undergrad she was in was weak. Happens all the time.</p>
Are you redefining the definition of pass/fail?<br>
If the student does not perform to satisfaction level, it’s a fail. If not, it’s a pass. You can’t receive a passing grade and fail the class. They have a failing grade for a reason: to fail you. The girl said she passed all of her classes in the fall sem. Is B the new F? Is it really that grade inflated at Yale?</p>
<p>“Lol typical Yale. And with that huge endowment they wont even refund her…how sad.” Uhh, right. And part of that endowment goes to funding faculty and adminstration who know how to run a world-class university that doesn’t shell out $50K just to be nice. Donors want them to spend money wisely. Sad would be being irresponsible w/the resources of the institution.</p>
<p>At most universities, especially graduate programs (i’m referrencing my experinced based on ppl I met …grad students from MIT) is that in the graduate programs, its either you get an A (5.0/5.0) or you fail. Atleast in graduate masters/pHD in Chemistry at MIT ges…Everything else other than A is the new F. :-p</p>
<p>After reading other articles, it seems they critiqued (critized?) her work from the beginning, she change her style or something and it still wasn’t up to the standards they wanted, it appears, the student didn’t get what they wanted, and maybe it was her reaction, maybe it was the pressure, maybe she didn’t have the skills</p>
<p>THe word protegy is irksome. Is she truely a protegy? She was in a very exclusive program, and just maybe she didn’t live up to her promise, maybe she peaked, lots of maybes, but it appears Yale saw the problems right away. </p>
<p>Sure, she got lauds from her old school, is that supprising? What else would one expect. Getting more kids into top grad programs benefits them.</p>
<p>Perhaps the problem was why didn’t Yale recognize this when they let her in and let her remain the whole year? If you say it’s because they were giving her a chance…then perhaps they fell into the same “give her some slack” attitude some people claim she could have been granted.
Whatever, doesn’t matter. They can’t giver her her time back…can’t they refund her? 50k! Come on!</p>
<p>^^^ Most schools cap the number of credits for MS, MA program. You can maybe transfer maximum of 2 classes. Sometimes you can’t even transfer any classes at all. All of her time is wasted.</p>