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<p>No way you could be an elite college student and actually believe these stereotypes. You could really benefit from being in a more diverse environment. Your mindset is very myopic, and I’m being gracious.</p>
<p>^^yet, you have no problem with this quote by tyler:</p>
<p>"And he did, in fact, fit the stereotype of the **way to common **Asian nerd. "
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<p>I applied to four schools, all of which are Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity Employers. (It’s almost impossible to find an institution that isn’t.) Yet, two of them stated in their Common Data Sets that they do not consider race in their admissions. The third is a public university that is generally praised for its commitment to diversity. The fourth is a private liberal arts college that is seeking to add more students from various backgrounds to its student body. In other words, half the schools I applied to considered race, and the other half didn’t.</p>
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<p>My SAT scores placed me in the middle 50% of all first-year students (2050 – 2360), although I would have been in the lower half of that range.</p>
<p>My SAT II scores were 760 and 790 for Biology and Math IIC.</p>
<p>I earned fives on all my AP exams.</p>
<p>I committed myself to four extracurricular activities that I enjoyed and did reasonably well (but not “woah, that’s good”-well).</p>
<p>Last year, I started working as a math tutor for university students.</p>
<p>I can only say this. Compared to the thousands who applied to Princeton, my stats were not the best. They were also not the worst. Using the definition of “qualified” from racial preference advocates, I was indeed a “qualified” candidate.</p>
<p>So, to answer your question, I had the chance to apply to Princeton with “strong stats.” I did not. I chose not to. I do not like Princeton. Their student newspaper staff from last year was a joke. Their media relations manager says one thing and practices another. Most importantly, they do not have my undergraduate major.</p>
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<p>It’s Jian Li. He was born in the People’s Republic of China and is now a permanent U.S. resident. People with the last name 李 from the Mainland romanize their last names as Li. If he were from the Republic of China, Hong Kong, or South Korea, then it would be written as Lee.</p>
<p>As collegealum314 mentioned, he did not “sue.” He filed a civil rights complaint.</p>
<p>Li has went on record as stating that he is not for “numbers only” admissions. He is very much for holistic admissions, just not the consideration of race. There is a difference.</p>
<p>He also did not fit the stereotype of the “common Asian nerd.” As norcalguy points out, the stereotypical “common Asian nerd” doesn’t shove back when you shove him. Li took the initiative to make public what has long been suspected and privately admitted. For that, he was vilified harshly by several parents here at CC. In fact, one of those parents used wording that is very similar to yours, Tyler. She derided him as having a “sense of entitlement” and even accused him of doing the bidding of “his masters.”</p>
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<p>Yeah, I don’t think Tyler helped himself one bit by including this side note.</p>
<p>Also kudos to collegealum314 and fabrizio on a very clean ownage.</p>
<p>Tsk tsk. Advocates of affirmative action aren’t really helping their cause by being racist.</p>
<p>haha i don’t think that fabrizio was calling me racist or attempting to “own” me, that just goes to show how little comprehension of this argument you have.</p>
<p>Obviously i was mistaken in thinking that he sued the university. But from his interview and the information I had he came off as very arrogant. And i don’t think anybody would say i was being “racist”, the asian nerd stereotype exists in the same manner that the black gangsta stereotype exists. The stereotype is simply that these one-dimensional students do very well in school and on standardized tests and are purely math/science oriented doing all of the very typical activities of that subject. </p>
<p>Honestly Big brother, if you want me to take you seriously you should really try doing a better job…</p>
<p>But fabrizio, ok. I thought that he had sued the university, but seeing as he only filed a complaint that changes my thinking. I do not agree with the discrimination against asians in admissions. BUT i do believe that a university doesn’t have to accept every STUDENT that is one dimensionally math/science oriented, though the fact that they are also asian shouldn’t have anything to do with it. </p>
<p>But you missed my question kinda, but at the same time answered it. So you WOULD apply to a school that gives preferences based on race.</p>
<p>Collegealum, our quotes were completely different, see above. </p>
<p>Fabrizio, i will say that i respect your position as you have articulated and supported it well, but ultimately it comes down to a matter of principles. </p>
<p>My biggest fear is that people will rush to abolish AA before replacement programs are already enacted. I believe that over time a general ease out of AA is better than instantly pulling the plug.</p>