Are the penalties of not signing up for selective service at age 18 that strict?

<p>Yes, I think my life is worth more than others. I won’t sacrifice my life for anyone I don’t know. I’d rather give up my freedom than my life.</p>

<p>I´d li/ke to know if although i´ve lived most of my life outside USA, i have to sing in to SSS anyways.
Thanks!</p>

<p>If you are a US citizen, Yes - wherever you live.</p>

<p>If you are not a US citizen but are a resident (including illegal alien) in the US, Yes. There are some exceptions - men here on student or visitor visas, men here as diplomats (and their families).</p>

<p>[Selective</a> Service System: Fast Facts](<a href=“http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm]Selective”>http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm)</p>

<p>I suggest registering unless you are so sure that this is a big deal issue for you that you are willing to forgo opportunities in the future. Believe me, I know folks who have problems getting public service jobs because of such decisions they made in their youth. THings like getting considered for a cabinet position… you never know what you will be offered and how things will go in the future.</p>

<p>Hold on a second. As far as I can tell, you become ineligible for financial aid if you fail to register before the age of 26. What does that have to do with me, a 21 year old, or all of the 18 year old high school seniors?</p>

<p>Because if you’re over the age of 18 you must be registered before you get aid. If you’re over 26, you must have registered by then.</p>

<p>OK, but I am 16 now (graduating at 17) and therefore do not meet the age requirement for SS, so I put no. Will this screw me over???</p>

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As others have indicated, registering doesn’t preclude you from seeking conscientious objector status later. Here’s what I suggest: register, but at the same time write a letter to your Representative in Congress telling him or her that you are a pacifist, and that you think the registration process should be changed to allow you to specify that when you register. Keep a copy of your letter.</p>

<p>To Post #17
You need to learn a bit more about war and politics. First, Congress declares wars. Yes, they have deferred their power to the President on many occasions, but they must (eventually) sign off on all significant military operations. Second, your scenario is a violation of international law and the Law of Armed Conflict. Intentionally targeting non-combatants is illegal and any order to do so must be disobeyed. (Otherwise, those who follow the order are guilty of war crimes.)</p>

<p>To post #18
Certain duties come with the services offered by government. That is how it is in all large societies on this planet.</p>

<p>To the OP
Register. It is the law. You will have access to certain benefits, and the risk of being drafted (even Without considering CO status) is extremely small.</p>

<p>Until a draft is implemented all questions about being drafted, CO status, and serving in the military are moot. As it now stands all branches of the military are meeting their recruiting goals. This includes the 2006 mandate to expand the Army by 80,000 and Marines by 27,000 by 2011. The Army is on schedule to meet that increase and the Marines will meet it almost two years ahead of schedule.</p>

<p>For once I’d like to see someone protest war, not only by refusing to register with Selective Service, but by saying, “I refuse to accept grant/loan/tax credit/work-study to attend college from a government that sponsors such brutality.”</p>

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<p>You might want to go speak with your AP Gov teacher…</p>

<p>I am also 31, I have also not signed up for selective service</p>

<p>I did not do it unpurpose it was pure ignorance on my part. I completely confused registring to vote as the same thing as registering with the government. “are you registered” “are you registered” I identified this as registering with the government which allowed you to vote AND also get drafted if need be, I’m paying taxes I’m registered so I honestly beleive this meant i was in the system for being drafted. Why is this?</p>

<p>I honestly don’t remember in 94-95 a good program telling teh students about registering about selective service and the importance of doing it and your future. Had i known i would have done it immediately. When i left highschool i only applied to one college, and my parents paid for it. I never applied for student aid so i didn’t come across the “selective service” requirments. My parents were imigrants so they didn’t know about this either.</p>

<p>I dropped out of that college and tried for a couple years to go to community college, at that time I had no expenses and once again my parents paid for school but I was lost and kept dropping classes but once again I never applied for student aid. I was young dumb and lost. After a few years of this i stopped and entered the work force eventually getting a seriies of high paying jobs always assuming i would go back to school some day. However one day got farther adn farther away until almost 11 years passed. Financial hardships and the economoy helped motivate me to go back to school but now I have a much lower income, I’m an independent and money from my parents arn’t an option as they are retired. </p>

<p>I had no idea about the fact i wasn’t registered with selective service. I was suprised applying for FAFSA and getting rejected for that reason. The problem is i have no way of proving this. I need to go to school i can not make any type of respectible income with out my college degree but financial aid seems to not be an option as I am not 31 and if given the chance i would sign up in a heart beat. I keep asking this question but I can’t find the answer anywhere online. I’m alone, i need help.</p>

<p>are there ANY loans our ANY aid programs out there for the united states of america, that i can apply to and not be initially rejected for not having signed up for selective service before I was 26? </p>

<p>there has to be SOMETHING. I understand about finiancial aid, but a bank loan, SOMETHING that i can sign up for and pay back. </p>

<p>am i denied EVERY oppportunity for receiving money to go to school? Is there anything? It doesn’t have to be federal ANYTHING? I’m frantic, i know my reasons for not signing up are flimsy and weak but its the TRUTH. But i know it will be denied if I try to write a letter or appeal it. So that is not an opption</p>

<p>WHAT PROGRAMS OR LOANS ARE AVAILBLE IF YOU HAVEN"T SIGNED UP FOR SELECTIVE SERVICE? ANYTHING? I DON"T CARE IF ITS "LOU’s LOANS I NEED KNOW THE PROCESS THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING.</p>

<p>it wan’t like i received a letter in the mail telling me i haven’t signed up for SS and to go sign. I was completely ignorant. But you cant’ survive with out a degree, and no one an pay for it with out a loan. Is there ANYTHING??? the answer just can’t be your S.O.L. be quiet and die??</p>

<p>signed </p>

<p>Frantically searching for answers.</p>

<p>@TheEveryMan: Are you sure you weren’t registered? Some states register you automatically when you turn 18 as a condition for other services or registrations (e.g., driver’s license). If, as you seem to say here, you made it to age 31 without the Selective Service tracking you down and notifying you – then I find it hard to believe you weren’t registered. You might want to search your home state’s Web site for “Selective Service.”</p>

<p>When i applied for FAFSA at the begining of this year it checked and it told me i wasn’t registered. That was the reason my aid was rejected.</p>

<p>Is there anything that can be done? I find it almost impossible to believe that there is NO alternative. I can live with out federal aid but is there any type of aid i can receive??</p>

<p>Theeveryman, I also never heard of selective service, before a few days ago. Was told at the unemployment office a couple days ago I needed this for some school money.</p>

<p>There are a lot of people hear saying something it is the law and providing links, but I have not seen a law cited here or on any of the links I clicked on.</p>

<p>There are lots of people out there claiming this and that is the law, but often times they cite a regulation or some official document or website or just think because there are people in jail for it that it has to be a law. If a judge(s) says it’s the law or pretends like it’s the law and no jury challenges or goes against his wishes, then it might as well be the law, also it helps if they have there own system of courts to enforce what is some ones will, essentially.</p>

<p>So if any can cite this law, I would like to see it.</p>

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<p>[Selective</a> Service System: Fast Facts](<a href=“http://www.sss.gov/FSsources.htm]Selective”>http://www.sss.gov/FSsources.htm)</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/MSSA-2003.pdf[/url]”>http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/MSSA-2003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>jimmy 154 – feel free to mark “no” on the FAFSA when it asks you if you have registered for the selective service. One quick consequence is that you will be ineligible for any and all federal aid (including loans).</p>

<p>everyman, </p>

<p>check with your congressional representative’s local office - they frequently help fast track things like this to help their constituents.</p>

<p>Hope this helps!</p>

<p>jimmy154,</p>

<p>Good for you to question laws! In this case, it happens to be true and of course, it was posted above, but I’m proud of you for not just taking someone’s work for it. That’s part of how a free people remain free.</p>

<p>I was automatically signed up after I applied to 2 or 3 colleges. I don’t know which one did it, but I had actually just found out that I was supposed to register for the draft the day before I received a letter thanking me for doing so… So I know you’re automatically signed up for it by colleges, but I thought you had to be enrolled for it to work like that.</p>