<p>Listen, we can argue about the differences between Massachusetts and New Jersey state law, what logic a court uses to say that a group doesn’t practice “invidious discrimination,” or whether the finals clubs are merely exercising their right to free association.</p>
<p>But I’m just a college sophomore. I’m not a law student or a lawyer, so I don’t know anything about those sorts of differences. I don’t think it’s very reasonable to expect a college sophomore to have a grasp of differing state laws, so I while the distinctions of the law may elude me, for now, it doesn’t really matter.But in any case, these legalities are irrelevant to the discussion we’re having.</p>
<p>What we’re discussing here isn’t about why one institution was ordered to desist and why another was not; we’re discussing whether Harvard’s finals clubs practice a sort of discrimination against women and non-members. You have yet to directly address any of my, MightyChip’s, or f.scottie’s arguments showing how the Harvard finals clubs practice de facto discrimination against women and non-members, and it would make your line of argument a lot more effective if you did so instead of throwing out legalistic red herrings. We’ve shown you that the clubs don’t admit women and that they foster a climate designed to ostracize non-members. Whether or not the clubs are as ingrained in Harvard culture as the eating clubs are in Princeton culture is irrelevant; the debate is about whether the finals clubs discriminate against women – yes or no? – and until you provide us with some sort of substantive evidence to the latter, you’re going to have trouble in this thread.</p>
<p>This will be the third time I ask you why you use quotation marks around words like eating club, secret society, and finals club. So that there is no lack of clarity, these words don’t need quotation marks around them. I’ve expressed my thoughts on this twice before in a direct manner, and you’ve ignored me both times.</p>