Are these Universities good enough for an International seeking low contribution? [3.78 GPA, rank 1]

Yes I have to fee waiver on Commonapp.

Right the pool is large and score is below average.

Basically as I understood, it is highly need aware and would be impossible for me. I hope I am right.

This isn’t true. The affordability part is though.

Now the schools you want are most likely rejections. What is a good CS major ? It’s hard and not everyone in CS is a CS major. My nephew is at one of the biggies in New York City - majored in Poli Sci. Self taught to pass the corporate entry test. .

So you make a lot of assumptions.

When you look at many of the need schools, they pick who they give money too and many are over half full pay. The US isn’t a freebie for most like you seem to think. Most pay many times $12k a year.

Yea, you are at a detriment in this regards but not life. Your life is not saved or wrecked because of a U.S. education.

It’s about you and your drive. I truly believe that. India is a growing economy. There are successful people there in droves. Why not you ?

I will, anyways it is the only school that seems about my range. I need to submit the CSS fee waiver for this one that’s a headache on top of this as they don’t take isfaa.

This concerns me, because the US is expensive and any unexpected expenses could easily match the $3k difference here. An example is you have/are in an accident or fall very ill unexpectedly - the deductible /amount owing for an ER visit can be expensive (and yes, that is with the health insurance you have to take that could cost anywhere from $1500-3000 depending where you go). If you go to a particularly cold climate, you need to buy appropriate cold-weather clothing, which can add up (even if you buy the cheapest versions you can find). You still have airfares, transport from airports to the university (can vary widely depending how far the college is from the closest international airport). A lot of things add up quickly, and it sounds from what you’ve said that $12k is the absolute maximum your family can afford. There should always be a buffer in case of unexpected expenses.

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By need schools I think you include the need-blind ones too.

I never taught that 12k was considered a freebie, hurts to know.

my education is handicapped though.

Why not me? I can’t be setting visions without even having a foundation to start off with.

These are the hardest to get into. There are 10 for intl that are meet need and need blind. There a zillion need blind - all the publics.

You are hoping for the ten. Take your shot but intl admissions are harder and you are likely 0 for ten based on your stats which aren’t competitive for these but are for many other like a Denison or Franklin & Marshall that meet need but are aware.

So I don’t know if Troy or Southern Miss will hit.

But your energy is better to reach out to them - Troy especially - to see if intl qualifies for the scholarship I sent you.

If you do, you’ll be well under $12k.

It’s a safe admit of you meet the minimum academic criteria.

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There is buffer, but 12k is what we expect that we could have for the COA. These finances seem very harsh to know about. I wish I could have known this earlier. I guess I’ll have to rot here.

Thank you very much for your response.

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I mailed the troy admissions team I’ll wait for the reply.

I’ll look into the other options you have mentioned

I cannot thank you enough for your effort.

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Best of luck. You’re a fighter. You’ll be fine no matter the where.

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Miami doesn’t meet full need (it does meet need for students from FL), so they will likely ‘gap’ you meaning they calculated what they can think your family can afford, but they don’t get you to that price with their fin aid package.

They do meet need for some students beyond the FL ones though
the ones they really want, whatever the reason may be.

I’m going to make a suggestion that will help you on these forums and with speaking with others on your educational journey. I noticed it early on and I wanted to comment on it.

When you use terms like:
Hopeless, worthless, despair, etc. these are extreme terms. This is especially concerning when you use them to describe this current situation. If you have an extremely debilitating disease or are mourning a recent loss, then it somewhat makes sense.

Terms like these may lead readers to assume that you need strong, daily mental health support. Is this the way you speak daily? Is this how you write in your essays? All or none?

I’m not saying it to hide your feelings, I am just saying it because it can appear overly extreme.

This is a very depressing way to convey your feelings. If you hope to have social relationships with other students, this is a way to make them feel pity and sadness. Misery loves company and you will be avoided:

When posters comment here on reality, you go completely extreme with self-loathing. In our society, this is not typical behavior that we see on these posts from international students. Read some of the other international posts. Look at the differences.

Just my opinion that you may want to speak to someone in a professional capacity.

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Adding to the post above, I want to encourage you not to judge your self-worth based on which schools accept you. There are so many factors in the admissions process that are beyond your control - with your level of financial need being just one of them. So please don’t blame yourself or chalk it up to fate.

Hold your head high, and explore the other opportunities available to you if a US university doesn’t work out this time. While we completely understand your desire to study here now, not being able to do so at this moment doesn’t mean the door is closed forever, or that there are no other doors open for you.

What’s important is having a strong backup plan for your undergraduate studies. If you excel there, you may still have the chance to come to the US for graduate school.

Wishing you strength and the very best of luck.

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I don’t know what to say but sorry.

4 years of wait seems really long for me at this point and with my stats I don’t think I’ll be going to a great undergrad school here too. Good schools won’t welcome me at postgrad.

Still, Thank you very much for your positivity.

I see thank you for the insight, I guess if they look into what my family could max afford it would be 15K USD range, which is not a huge leap but definitely a bit troublesome.

Yes, 4 years is an eternity at your age. :hugs:

(For adult posters: I always remember the end of Dead Poets Society - in the film, one year seems like a fine compromise to adults and simply impossible to bear to the teen. I remember watching the film as a teenager and reacting to the idea of one year as clearly impossible in the same way being a hostage and tortured for a year would seem unconscionable.)

@charann:
Have you run the NPC on ANY US college?
If so what colleges and what were the results?
(They will be inaccurate but will give us an idea)

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t be interested in Informatics, UX/UI, CS systems
 If you’re interested in CS.
Are you willing to compromise on rank and specific major if it gets you to the US? Or not at all, CS or bust?

Have you looked into the European options I listed? At those your SAT would be considered high (because European systems focus on long form writing students there do quite poorly on multiple choice tests where no one cares how broad your reading or how elegant your reasoning is.)

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For postgrad, schools will look much more at your GPA and achievements in undergrad than where you did it.

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I will be dead honest with you, without exaggeration, the current state of universities in my locality is so degraded that students don’t get placed and their GPA’s are faked.

I am pretty sure US universities are smart enough to know all these gimmicks.

I don’t know if there is a greater word I could use than eternity, the teenage seems too fresh.

Anyways,

No, I am pretty interested in learning those systems, but as you mentioned the cornel cas is kind of oriented towards agriculture and business.

CS it is, I don’t think I’ll be willing to learn something other than it.

I am going through them, the France one seems a bit hard to understand. I’ll let you know.

Thank you very much

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It’s quite hard to have a conversation when everything gets met by something like this. I will mention that I work in a part of the US with a large Indian immigrant community, and a lot of people I know got their undergrad in India, and a number of those have successfully done grad school here.

So the question is what is your plan B if you don’t manage to get to the US for undergrad? If you want to go to university you need an option somewhere at home. I can’t go back and read through this full thread of well over 100 posts so excuse me if I missed or forgot something, but you said somewhere i believe that your school record is not good enough for top Indian colleges, yet you think it is ok for good schools in the US. Something is not adding up. I come from a developing country myself and believe me, I understand what it is like to feel like you have very few options at home. But the only thing you can ultimately do is make the best of whatever situation you have and if that ends up being going to a local university, go and make the best of it. I did that, and I can almost guarantee you or anyone on this forum probably have never heard of the university I went to, but I got accepted not once but twice to one of the best universities in the world for postgrad. The first time I couldn’t go because I couldn’t make the funding work, but I ended up going some years later. I didn’t give up. All you can do is make the best of what you have. By all means shoot your shot for the US, and look at other countries that are not as expensive for college as well, but if what you are left with is what the vast majority of people in this world (and even in the US are - a college close to home - go into that and give it jour best.

Good luck.

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