Are Top UK Colleges Regarded As Highly as the Ivy League Worldwide?

[LutherVan]

@SJ2727

You’re convincing yourself it’s “factual”, but it’s not. You seemingly haven’t been around long enough to see how a change in methodology can sometimes dramatically affect a school’s place in a ranking; so according to you it would somehow be a “fact” that a school could get dramatically better or worse from one year to the next, despite it or its peers not doing much different, just because the rankings company decides to changes weightings of the factors it uses.

As I stated in my first post “By no means can anyone say any of these surveys are faultless or produces an accurate picture”.

That said, I don’t think any fluctuation in methodology in recent years will displace the tier outcomes I have put forward.

So the onus is on you to prove that any of the Top UK or Ivy League universities dramatically gets better or worse from one year to the next when the tables are aggregated.

I will accept “dramatically gets better or worse” if the university somehow jumps 2 tiers when the 5 tables are aggregated.

Remember the tiers are:

Harvard, MIT, Cambridge, Stanford, Oxford > Princeton, Yale, Caltech > Columbia, Imperial, Cornell, UPenn, UCL >> Edinburgh, LSE, KCL >> Brown >>>> Dartmouth

So since you have “been around long enough to see how a change in methodology”, please do kindly show us how, for example, Yale could have fallen to the Edinburgh tier or worse, or how Brown could have risen to the Cornell tier or better, based on this fluctuations in methodology.

The ball is in your court.

@SJ2727

In the “real world”, a number of us here actually have quite some years’ experience interviewing people. Your college is at best a foot in the door at entry level or close to entry level interviews. It’s not a guarantee of anything.

Thanks again for your anecdote to represent the “real world”.

I am assuming you are saying that the 94,000+ recruiters, employers and academics surveyed by these publications don’t have “quite some years’ experience interviewing people”?

Or they are not in the “real world”?

It is you and @PurpleTitan that have the approvable years of experience interviewing people. And yours is superior to theirs?

@SJ2727

Maybe you come from somewhere that no one really knows these colleges and interviewers sit with a rankings list to try to decide who to shortlist, but as @dadtwo says, in the countries familiar with those universities, people don’t.

If you did read the request of the OP, you will find that he requested for a worldwide view, not your parochial perspective.

I think it is always more efficient in the “real world” (if you ever get in one) to answer the questions asked, not respond with what you want to say and refuse facts. That is just my personal opinion despite apparently not “having been around long enough” in comparison to your Taylor Swift-generation self.

@SJ2727

Anyway, clearly you have “someone” to convince that X college is ranked as highly as Y college, sure go ahead and use your average table rankings for that. One day you’ll go out in the real world after college, and maybe remember this conversation.

Thank you.

How is that Trap music [noise] you kids listen to nowadays by the way?

Do you need a Safe Space?

When I finally grow up and beat my Benjamin Button’s disease, I don’t want to be like you. I just like to stick with facts, not anecdotes.