<p>All politicians take money from groups that support them. And sometimes from those who don’t.</p>
<p>Yeah, but most politicians take money for their election campaign coffers from groups who support them. And there are rules and laws governing how campaign donations can be spent. These body building millions are going to Arnold personally, not to his campaign. Big difference.</p>
<p>And he never told us the $$, until it came out from the SEC…he didn’t deny it, but he wasn’t bery furthcoming either</p>
<p>And, as a mother, I thought the legislation he vetoed was good legislation. It was to protect kids and teach coaches about the hazards of some supplements.</p>
<p>And his arrogance in this is really not suprising</p>
<p>I don’t like political office holders doing anything other than their jobs, especially getting paid for it. This includes speaking and other ways of providing money. I think all lawmakers ought to get a big raise and we should have harsh rules about extra curricular income and work. </p>
<p>No investments should be allowed that aren;t publicly available, such as normally traded stocks and bonds. Years ago it came out that Sen Lloyd benson’s blind trust had some private LBO investments in it that most people aren’t offered. I’m sure this happens more often than we might think. And, fortunately or unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to be a Dem or Rebublican issue. </p>
<p>Frankly, I have a very dim view of most of these supplements and the way they are promoted.</p>
<p>Looks like Maria made a good deal, at least</p>
<p>Actually I think unspent donations may be kept by the politician. There’s always Grey Davis. Don’t like Arnold vote for someone else next time. I’d love to hear more about the investments of slick Willy, the former dictator of the Cali legislature.</p>
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<p>Susu, I really don’t defend Arnold as a person or a groper! The problem with our schools in CA is called Prop 13, in place far before Arnold. Until that is addressed, education can not be. I’m all for teachers and children having what they deserve, but we’re not even close in CA until people pay the kind of property taxes they pay on the E coast.</p>
<p>TheDad - you forgot that while the right wing spin machine tries to blame everybody except the republicans in charge for everything wrong with the state/country (see CC righties posts above re: Hillary Clinton, Grey Davis, etc.) the state budget would be balanced right now, with no borrowing, if Schwarzeneger hadn’t repealed the auto reg. tax (in place since the 1930’s) in a classic bit of political pandering for his first action in office. After the short term economic dip caused by the dotcom bust was weathered we’d have been doing OK under the budget processes the Dem’s used while in office. Instead, we have a structural budget deficit created by cutting taxes below their historical level - and the righties are blaming everyone but the guy who caused it - the Gov. (and, of course, it’s really the fault of those evil teachers and nurses…)</p>
<p>Barrons: Can you for once focus on ARNOLD and his shenagins? </p>
<p>This is not good, but all you can do is bring in Grey Davis, okay how about Frist and his invested campaign money and hidden loans, or Delay or Abormoff or Cheney and his connections…</p>
<p>Citygirlsmom, I often have a hard time believing you’re really a mom. Kid faking being a parent?</p>
<p>What shenanagins? He gets paid for something he always has supported. Big whoop. Now if he got paid to support something contrary to his life’s beliefs, you might have something.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I wish my Republican friends could just LET GO of all the previous Democratic leaders (Gray Davis, Bill Clinton, Franklin Roosevelt, Fiorello LaGuardia, whoever) that still bug them and start focusing on what’s going on right NOW. Every time there’s a political discussion, someone brings up a retired Democrat’s failings as an excuse for the current Republican officeholder’s wrongdoings and screw-ups. </p>
<p>We all have a right to demand excellence, honor, and integrity from whoever is in office right NOW. Arnold’s smarmy little pre-election deal pales in comparison with what’s going on in Washington. An administration that alters scientific reports when they don’t hew to the party line? That falsifies WMD data? That sends our young men and women to their deaths in inadeuately-armored vehicles? That endangers a career CIA operative and every person she ever talked to because her husband had the temerity to disagree with the Administration? My God, I don’t feel as though I’m living in America anymore. The inmates are running the asylum.</p>
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<p>No, that would be a felony. Otherwise it would be far too easy for a fat cat to give a big “campaign” donation late in a winning race, with both the donor and the candidate knowing that the candidate could keep it. Another name for this would be bribery.</p>
<p>There are all sorts of rules and laws regulating for what purposes unspent donations may be used or spent. Often they are donated to political parties, PACs, or other campaigns. And sometimes polticians get in trouble for not following the rules: </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/02/nyregion/02JUDG.html?ex=1380427200&en=97ed80b9db8e5aa3&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/02/nyregion/02JUDG.html?ex=1380427200&en=97ed80b9db8e5aa3&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND</a></p>
<p>Arnold has severed ties with the magazines, he is relinquishing any moneys, not doing any work for them, as an editor- he announced that this afternoon</p>
<p>But, before that he had a contract valued at up to $5million and then he vetoed legislation that would have regulated where he was getting his money from, there is a difference</p>
<p>And yes I am a mom, and when the thread is about Arnold, and people decide to prove that Arnold isn’t so bad by comparing him to others, that needs to be called</p>
<p>It is called diversion and is a way of avoiding actually discussing the relevant issue. So, I brought up a couple of not so perfect people to make the point that bringing in other people histories doesn’t really answer the point with regards to who we are talking about now.</p>
<p>So what if Grey Davis was not perfect, does that make Arnold’s choices here with regards to supplements getting money for their advertisements and vetoing legislation that would have regulated to a degree those supplements ethical ones?</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.arnoldexposed.com/[/url]”>http://www.arnoldexposed.com/</a></p>
<p>Here, there ought to be more people who care about THAT issue over there.</p>
<p>California here we come, right back where we started from. </p>
<p>This state that voted in the “Governator” is the same state that celebrates “Indigenous People’s Day” instead of Columbus Day and votes in mandate after unfunded useless mandate, and they wonder why their taxes are skyhigh and they have record budget defecits. </p>
<p>Viva la California!</p>
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<p>Wrong again. California observes Columbus Day, not Indigenous People’s Day. For a full list of California state holidays see:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.edd.ca.gov/eddsthol.htm[/url]”>http://www.edd.ca.gov/eddsthol.htm</a></p>
<p>Do you have any more misinformation about the most populous and most popular state in the US?</p>
<p>Maybe that was just the Bay Area (or UC Berkeley to be specific)
I truly do apologize. I am just jealous of the weather in San Diego, who wouldn’t want to live in 65-70 degree weather year round?</p>
<p>“I am thinking NO” and “It’s like fact”. A teenager, and one who needs to study SAT CR.</p>
<p>Zagat, get over it. Sometimes, I am typing fast and use slang. Maybe my typing is not perfect. But, like, WHATEVER. I can use slang. And, I am thinking NO is how we sometimes talk here in San Francisco. Yes we do. </p>
<p>So, I am off to bed after getting my D the new Harry Potter book after waiting at the bookstore for thre hours, so I am in a very cranky mood and I do not need some stranger correcting my typing or my use of words.</p>
<p>We adults sometimes, when around teenagers alot, pick up some of the language. My VERY Irish husband, uses Americanisms, and I say “wee” and “don’t be daft” alot. So, am I pretending to be Irish when I do that? I think NOT.</p>