<p>rider730: I’m a spring admit to Letters & Sciences and try to figure out what classes I should take for my FPF schedule. I want to make sure that the math course I take can meet the requirements for both L&S and medical school pre-preqs. From this thread I learned that once I took math 1B, I can not go back to 1A. Should I take 1A or 1B for math?</p>
<p>If don’t have calculus BC then take 1A</p>
<p>What are the candidate majors you are considering? Making the decision you need would be based on the most restrictive of the majors plus the most restrictive of the med schools to which you might apply. </p>
<p>UCLA Medical School requires a year of math (one semester calc) and doesn’t accept AP. Johns Hopkins Medical School requires a year, but only one semester has to be calc and they will accept AP credit for that. Yale school of medicine has no math requirement. Harvard med school requires a year of calculus, but will accept AP credit. With over 130 medical schools in the US, it would take some time to investigate every one and compile their requirements relative to Calculus. It is also widely believed that even if a med school accepts AP credits, they STRONGLY prefer actual college level classes. Math is an anomaly in that it is not part of the core premed requirements. The MCAT does not require any calc knowledge, nor does the typical med school curriculum. </p>
<p>Even if you decide to take a full year of Calc or just the B course, there is a decision - Math 16A-16B or Math 1A-1B.</p>
<p>The first is the math that many premeds take, but is not as rigorous as 1A. They are essentially identical as far as med schools are concerned. </p>
<p>For some majors, they are identical. For others, only the 1A series will do. Within the College of L&S, biology consists of more than one major. Integrative Biology accepts either calc track, while Molecular and Cellular Biology demands the 1A-1B track. IB will permit use of AP credit in lieu of the calculus semester. MCB will take your AP test as satisfying the year of Calc requirement for the major. </p>
<p>On the other hand, you can always take more advanced math courses to fulfill the med schools that have a math requirement. For example, you might take Math 1B and then Math 53 - multivariable calculus - which gives a year of actual college coursework in calc. Thus, unless you find something very peculiar when you look at the departments and majors you might declare while in L&S, you are probably very safe with 1B.</p>
<p>Would doing just Math 53 and 54 in undergrad fulfill the med school calculus requirement if I have already placed out of Math 1B?</p>
<p>It certainly would, for the very few that even require a full year of calc.</p>
<p>I’m doing BioE, so I have to take Math 53 and 54 anyways. I wasn’t sure if Math 54 counted as a calculus credit though, otherwise I’d have to take Math 1B in the fall and then 53 in the spring.
If Math 54 counts as a calculus credit, is it best to AP out of Math 1B and go straight to Math 53 as a freshman?</p>
<p>Thanks for all your insight!
I was wondering about how to choose math classes for the FPF.
Do I choose based on my intended major or my math abilities?</p>
<p>General: If and only if you score a 5 on the AP Calculus BC exam will you be allowed to skip both Math 1A and 1B solely on AP credits. However, whether or not you should waive these credits depends on a number of things. First of all you, must really consider whether or not you just passed the exam, or you know the material; Math at Berkeley is a completely different animal. If Math at Berkeley were a Wolf, AP Calculus BC would be a puppy. Only use AP Credits if you’re comfortable with your math skills. </p>
<p>For Pre-Meds:</p>
<p>Don’t skip Math 1A or Math 1B unless you plan to take math on campus. You need one-year of math for almost all medical schools to look at you. If you skip 1A, you have to take Math 53 on campus. (Or math 54 maybe?). This might work to your advantage because Math 1B on campus is ridiculously harder than at FPF. Also, Fred Bourgoin is an amazing teacher. </p>
<p>For Engineers:</p>
<p>I would recommend taking Math 1B at FPF no matter what. This contradicts my previous statement above, but if you’re not completely sure of your math skills, self study Calculus over summer. I did that after deciding to skip 1A. I did really well in Fred’s Math class and I avoided the Math 1B hurdle on campus. If you like having a nice GPA, take Fred’s class. The class is both more enjoyable and the teacher is amazing resulting in optimal learning.</p>
<p>im a spring admit for fpf chem major but trying to go on the pre med track</p>
<p>would this schedule work? </p>
<p>either math 16a or 1a
anthro or philo
english R1A
sociologyAC or environmental sciences AC (trying to get AC over)</p>
<p>would this be okay?
i dont need to do the AH&I since i got a 4 on us history ap and 670 on sat 2</p>
<p>I posted on the other FPF thread earlier, but I think this one has more activity. 
Here is my question:</p>
<p>I have to fulfill my Arts & Lit and Physical Science breadth requirements in the FPF program. Which courses are the most interesting/educational/best to take?</p>
<p>The options are:
Arts & Lit - Art History 11, Classics 10A, English 31AC, Music 27
Physical Science - Astronomy 10, Earth and Planetary Science 80, Environmental Science 2</p>
<p>Any advice about which courses/which professors to take would be much appreciated!</p>
<p>What specifically is the “dean’s honors list,” and what do FPF students (or fall admits) have to do in order to be on the list?</p>
<p>Academic Senate standards for honors for all colleges: [UC</a> Berkeley Academic Senate](<a href=“http://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/resources/regulations_doc.html]UC”>http://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/resources/regulations_doc.html) but the exact conditions are defined by the college.</p>
<p>[Dean’s</a> Honor List-Introduction](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/honorlist/intro.html]Dean’s”>http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/honorlist/intro.html) for L&S students</p>
<p>FPF students are not yet L&S students in fall, but become so for Spring. FPF grades won’t count for the Dean’s Honors List which is a semester by semester </p>
<p>Also if in CNR [CNR</a> Dean’s List](<a href=“http://nature.berkeley.edu/site/deans_list.php]CNR”>http://nature.berkeley.edu/site/deans_list.php)</p>
<p>Anyone have the reference for others (e.g. CoE) please add on.</p>
<p>so i recently got waitlisted at FPF. what are my chances of getting in FPF if i applied a week after it started waitlisting people? (it started waitlisting people on April 9rh and i applied/was accepted on their waitlist on the April 15th)</p>
<p>Umm… how do I know if I got into FPF? I’ve been getting e-mails about choosing classes and whatnot, but I can’t find any indication on the myBerkeley site that I’m definitely in FPF or on the waitlist, or whatever.</p>
<p>I think if they don’t tell you that you’re waitlisted, you are most likely in.</p>
<p>is it really necessary to go to FPF calSO? my family and i already have a vacation planned then (with plane tickets bought), but if i really have to go to it, then they’ll cancel my tickets… just wondering.</p>
<p>CalSO is useless for FPF.</p>
<p>@ankur, is this based on personal experience?</p>
<p>Hey, does anyone have any information/past experience regarding the waitlist for FPF? I am currently on it and would be disappointed if I were unable to be on campus in the Fall. Does anyone know what dates students have heard back about it in the past?</p>
<p>I was originally gonna do FPF and I had asked that same question many times, and I’ve always been told it’s useless. It doesn’t help you in anyway to pick and receive your classes.</p>