<p>A later book titled The Public Ivies: America’s Flagship Public Universities (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of Greene’s Guides expanded upon the first list to include 30 colleges and universities. Includes U of A.
And an Ivy League is just 8 schools that made a pact a long time ago. Are you saying that Stanford, Notre Dame, Berkley are worse than an ivy because they aren’t in the northeast?</p>