@toowonderful I agree, but I should have said he found it even more important in those very large auditions. For example, he said with Ball State they learned the dance and they had a chance to do it in groups of 5 for the video camera (I believe that is school who taped dance in Chicago). He said he was in back of room the entire time and couldn’t even see the adjudicators face well. It wasn’t until his group, the last group of that dance call, stepped up that he could see them for the first time.