<p>What I don’t understand is why this would even be a bad thing. If the school is ALLOWING KIDS TO APPLY to Wharton as undergrads at Penn, why would the adcoms look down upon doing this exact same thing?</p>
<p>I’m just not understanding this.</p>
<p>Because adcoms want to admit people to the College who actually want to BE IN the College rather than those who are just looking for a way into Penn so that they can they transfer to Wharton. The people who later want to transfer into Wharton should be applying directly to Wharton in the first place, not taking the place of someone in the College who is actually passionate about the liberal arts.</p>
<p>KRabble - you can just tell. Since you are dead set on the College that will come through in all aspects of your application. Don’t worry - and talk to your Regional Director too.</p>
<p>because its gamesmanship and disingenuous (sp?) some people CAN have a change in heart, AND the college does allow, even perhaps encourage transfers between SEAS, the College, and transfers TO nursing (not out, really, cuzz with 40% admit rate, thats a back door too). Mostly, though, if you havent got the guts to stand up and compare yourself with the other wharton applicants, you dont deserve to go there.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with guts. It has to do with a desire to actually be at the College. See, if I apply to Wharton, I’m getting rejected and then I have no chance to go to the College.</p>
<p>I’m really questioning my mention of Wharton in my essay.</p>
<p>i see your point: you still want to go to Penn, but you can’t get into to wharton. nonetheless, its just bad form to back door, if thats your intent from the start. I’d say that if you want to go to penn, find a college degree that you want, find a way to enjoy it, and if you still are into business after 4 years get a wharton MBA. </p>
<p>If you come out and say you want to back door you will be rejected.</p>
<p>If you dont, and do it anyway, you just cant have the same pride in your degree, and you ought to feel bad about it.</p>
<p>UMMMM, if you actually have a desire to be in the College, then why did you:</p>
<p>1) Start a thread called “Back door” transferring to Wharton
2) Post in other threads about your chances at schools like NYU (where you asked about Stern), Kelley (another business school), and UMich (which has Ross). </p>
<p>You seem are overtly indicating your interest in business and in Wharton and now you are trying to say that you actually have a desire to bein the College and study liberal arts?</p>
<p>I don’t buy it.</p>
<p>i think he means the University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>So if I apply to UMich and eventually get into Ross in my sophomore year, I shouldn’t feel bad because it’s allowed over there? I’m not going to base my opinion on the opinions of the adcoms.</p>
<p>I’ll change my essay, though.</p>
<p>What is there to buy? I’m trying to have the best opportunity possible to get into a Top 5 business school for my MBA. Getting into Ross or Wharton (in any way possible) would be the best way toward this goal. Then, assuming I can’t make those schools as an undergrad, I want to get as good a liberal arts education as possible, which is why I’m applying to UPenn CAS ED rather than UMich-Ross ED.</p>
<p>It is very simple.</p>
<p>why arent you applying directly to Ross? i’m assuming their admissions standards are lower than the college…if you cant get into Ross directly, i dont see how you can even get into the college directly, let alone wharton</p>
<p>“So if I apply to UMich and eventually get into Ross in my sophomore year, I shouldn’t feel bad because it’s allowed over there?”</p>
<p>Not to sound rude, but yes.</p>
<p>It’s not just “allowed” at Ross, that’s the way it is DONE (even though they changed the rules a little this year). </p>
<p>The fact is that when you apply to Penn you are indicating your commitment to study for 4 years in either a liberal arts, nursing, engineering, or business curriculum. If you apply to a school with no intention of staying there or studying that curriculum, then it’s not fair to those who actually wanted to do that in the first place.</p>
<p>YES, whartonalum.</p>
<p>in any event, i have homework, no knowledge of business schools (clearly), and no idea why i’ve been participating in this conversation</p>
<p>There are only 80 spots available for Ross admits. There are 2,419 spots for UPenn admits.</p>
<p>I doubt Ross will be easier, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>like i said, idk much about business school stuff, though 13% is darn tough any way u slice it. </p>
<p>whatever, I’ve homework and MICHIGAN just won :)</p>
<p>MOST college students change their majors during the 4 years- many do so multiple times. That is why many kids transfer into or out of Wharton. If you really want to be at the University of Pennsylvania, the fact is that your chances for admission are better if you apply to The College than to Wharton. Once you are there, you can decide if you are happy with majoring in economics or some other College major, or whether you would rather try to transfer into Wharton. Maybe it is back-dooring, but the opportunity is there if your GPA is high enough (takes a 3.6 or better) and you have taken the pre-requisite classes. There is no interview or essay involved- it is based on GPA.</p>
<p>So you are saying that it’s easier to get into Wharton as a Soph transfer than to get admitted there in the first place? That’s not what was said at the info session.</p>
<p>i was told a gpa of aboiut 3.8 was needed for transfer… argh. but on the tour it was said that it is fairly challenging to transfer… depends on whether you are up to that challenge i guess, and you can’t know for sure that you will have a certain gpa. that and it is easy to transfer OUT of wharton… anyways my tour guide was enrolled in wharton and said if you want to go there you should apply there as it is not easy to transfer…</p>
<p>Not that I don’t think it’s harder, but I don’t think they would go around saying it’s easy to switch schools if it’s true either.</p>
<p>I imagine it’s also easier to transfer to Ross from LSA than to Wharton from CAS. </p>
<p>Although I truly believe that if you put your mind to it from the start, you can transfer into anywhere you want.</p>
<p>Here is the information about internal transfers to Wharton. No, it is not easy. But it can be done.</p>
<p><a href=“http://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/dualdegree/internal_transfers.cfm[/url]”>http://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/dualdegree/internal_transfers.cfm</a></p>