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<p>Wait what? How does that have ANYTHING to do with the arguments the previous two posters made? Stop going off on tangents, its obvious you have no real retort - might as well admit it.</p>
<p>Bennett - ‘Aborting All
Black Babies Would
Reduce Crime’
9-30-5</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (CNN) – Congressional Democrats blasted former Education Secretary William Bennett on Thursday for saying that aborting “every black baby in this country” would reduce the crime rate, and demanded their Republican counterparts do the same. </p>
<p>“This is precisely the kind of insensitive, hurtful and ignorant rhetoric that Americans have grown tired of,” said Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois. </p>
<p>Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could – if that were your sole purpose – you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.</p>
<p>shut up hard a $ $ you are diliberately taking that out of context. And thats actually more like your kinda of person since im sure you would eradicate the jews if you had a chance…oh and y debate online? I bet its cuz anyone who debated you in person shot you down.</p>
<p>hahahahaha</p>
<p>Alien workshop, your last 6 posts have been either “Lol” or “^Hahahah” or “^true”. Just…stop, its pointless and annoying. You are laughing that Hardstyle would want to exterminate Jews? I see your true identity now, you closet racist.</p>
<p>The context in which he said would make him absolutely correct. It is well known that statistically, blacks have much higher crime rates. Now, he doesn’t advocate doing such a heinous act as aborting a baby just because they are of a certain race. He simply said it hypothetically, and in that context, he would actually be correct. He never advised for anyone to do so. What he said was equivalent to a “what if…” question.
So like hardstyle to take words out of context. Even more like hardstyle…posting a COMPLETELY irrelevant article to the debate. And this relates to Barbara Bush’s beautiful mind how? </p>
<p>No joke, I’m sitting here, and I’m laughing at what a terrible poster you are. You literally spam the forums when you find an article. Its really amusing actually, that you pride yourself on how educated you and your daughter are by the American education system, and then blast this country. I guess the American Education system isn’t that great though, seeing how it couldn’t explain the primitive concept that people just DON’T POST THE sAME ARTICLE in THREE DIFFERENT THREADS, all talking about DIFFERENT THINGS, especially when the article doesn’t relate to the thread topic, AT ALL.</p>
<p>So Boo-ya! (sorry, could not resist that one.)</p>
<p>Does anyone else see that when flaming liberals start to lose debates, they always just revert to Bush being a liar and murderer of those in the military?</p>
<p>Republican Virtues & Values</p>
<p>Bennett’s Newest Virtue -
Abort All Black Babies
By Judith Moriarty
<a href="mailto:noahshouse@adelphia.net">noahshouse@adelphia.net</a>
9-30-5</p>
<p>Bill Bennett - author of (gag) The Book of Virtues - former Secretary of Education, former Drug Czar. </p>
<p>Addressing a caller’s suggestion that the “lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30 years” would be enough to preserve Social Security’s solvency, radio host and former Reagan Administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett dismissed such “far reaching, extensive extrapolations” by declaring that if “you wanted to reduce crimeif that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down”. Bennett conceded that aborting all African - American babies “would be an impossible ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do”, then added, “but the crime rate would go down”. </p>
<p>And people wonder at the criminal negligence; that left people to die in the Superdome - Convention Center and on I-10 (the sick- elderly- infirm) and in the Charity hospitals. This sort of sums up the real mind set of these phonies. Gosh but what would we do, with all the white collar corporate/political criminals practicing genocide - environmental holocausts - and thievery (pension funds - stock manipulations - no -bid contracts - tax subsidies - off shore banking - loophole legislation ) or the serial killers like Dahmer - Bundy (once a member in good standing of the Young Republicans) , John Gacy, Charlie Manson etc. Sad thing is, Bennett just voices - what a lot of people; posing as such tolerant - unbiased people, really feel (let’s get real) - the true test being to note the level of their “tolerance” when it’s announced that a minority housing development will be built in their gated enclaves - resort areas - or Currier and Ives postcard towns. </p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
<p>You posted this in three threads. STOP SPAMMING.</p>
<p>Turtle, you never cease to amaze me. It’s your arcane mentallity and those that share it, that keeps this Country from moving forward in terms of it’s humanity. It must be clocked in your genetic make-up to connect so intimately with those responsible for heinous crimes and acts against humanity. It’s obvious that your views about minorities are grounded in stereotypes and hatred. No surprise though because you support the likes of Ariel Sharon & The Dummy George Bush, two world leaders devoid of morality and human values. Everyone agrees that FEMA was horrendous in their response to Katrina especially since they have the resources of the Federal Government. But Turtle can’t resist blaming the Mayor because he’s a black man in charge of an Impoverished City with little resources to handle such a disaster. Thank God more & more Americans have distanced themselves from your kind of hateful & biased Ilk.</p>
<p>The more corrupt & devious a leader is, the more Daturtle loves & supports him. It must be tough holding on to such deep seated hatred & bias Turtle. Why are you like this, did your girlfriend leave you for a black guy? ***** Envy? Fear? Take some vitamins and get some rest and you’ll perform better in the sack! You don’t have to hate people that aren’t apart of your little manicured false world.</p>
<p>Quarter of a Million Dollars Per Settler </p>
<p>by Charley Reese
The state of Israel which, the last time I checked, was both a foreign and a sovereign nation wants the American taxpayers to cough up $2.2 billion in addition to our regular $3 billion-or-so annual subsidy to pay for the withdrawal from Gaza.</p>
<p>Unless the American people raise hell about this, it’s a done deal. In Washington, whatever Israel wants, Israel gets. Nevertheless, there are several reasons why the American people should rebel at the latest brazen attack on our treasury by Israel and its American supporters.</p>
<p>First, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon decided unilaterally to withdraw from Gaza. This was in lieu of following the president’s peace plan, which Sharon has ignored from the very beginning. Where is it written, on stone or parchment or paper, that the head of a foreign government can decide to do something unilaterally and automatically send the bill to the American taxpayers? We will derive no benefits at all from the withdrawal.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Sharon’s adviser spilled the beans in an Israeli newspaper interview. The withdrawal from Gaza is not part of any peace plan. It was just an excuse to put off serious peace negotiations. Sharon will remove about 8,000 settlers from Gaza who are a pain in the government’s rear end anyway, shut down four tiny settlements on the West Bank, and that’s it. As Sharon’s adviser admitted, there won’t be any serious negotiations with the Palestinians until they “turn into Finns.”</p>
<p>A normal president would view Sharon’s actions as unacceptable and his casual expectation that we would pay for it as a personal insult. President George Bush, however, when it comes to Israel, is just like Congress a candy-bottom. That’s why, despite all of our problems, all of our deficits, all of our debts, the U.S. government has gifted Israel with more than $90 billion in recent decades. If Washington gives in, we taxpayers will be spending about $227,000 per Jewish settler. That’s a sporty moving expense.</p>
<p>Bill Bennett is a reprobate and a racist. I am affronted that he has the temerity to imply that that crime would go down if Black babies were aborted. He should be banned from radio. </p>
<p>On the issue of Middle East the press is definitely biased. Israel should return Arab lands in the West Bank on the condition that it is recognized by its neighbors. Occupation only breeds hatred. Israel must stop its irredentist behavior in the region. </p>
<p>Likewise, the world should condemn the genocide that is being carried out by Arabs in Darfur. Over 180, 000 Black Africans have been slaughtered, but the Arab lobby at the UN has blocked every resolution against the Sudan. From 2000 to 2005 approximately 2300 Palestinians lost their lives during their Intifada compared to the abovementioned number slaughtered in Darfur. </p>
<p>I guess some lives are more important than others! </p>
<p>US aid to Israel and Egypt should be put in the pot to rebuilt New Orleans.</p>
<p>“But Turtle can’t resist blaming the Mayor because he’s a black man in charge of an Impoverished City with little resources to handle such a disaster. Thank God more & more Americans have distanced themselves from your kind of hateful & biased Ilk.”</p>
<p>Are you kidding? This is ludicrous. The mayor had hundreds of buses that he couldve easily used just by saying GO. These resources that you say he doesnt have were there before and he decided not to use them thereby causing much more deaths than there had to be. How dare you say that it was FEMA’s fault. If the buses had of been used FEMA would not even be needed nearly as badly right now…take Texas for example in hurricane Rita…they used buses and had a mandatory evacuation and guess what? Barely anyone died!</p>
<p>$7.00 per hr. don’t provide incentive for people to hang around for the Katrine Tsunami just to drive some people out of town ON A YELLOW bus. The real question is how did the Federal Government allow it’s citizens albeit majority black, wallow in their own urine & feces for five days with no response. George Bush Loves Black People!</p>
<p>Let ME post an article in Hardstyleprep style:</p>
<p>By Michael Graham
Sep. 7, 2005</p>
<pre><code>"[The Rev. Jesse] Jackson said evacuees from the Gulf Coast are not refugees, a word he believes suggests subhumans or criminals. ‘It is racist to call American citizens refugees,’ he said."Houston Chronicle.
“Many black leaders have said that this [the response to Hurricane Katrina] is an example of black genocide.” A reporter at a Hurricane Katrina press conference held by the Congressional Black Caucus
“There’s going to be plenty of time to make [hurricane recovery] a racist issue, and I’m going to do it.” Congresswoman Diane Watson, responding to the question.
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<p>OK, Jesse Jackson, you win. You figured it out. There’s no keeping a secret from you and your fellow black leaders. So on behalf of the Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy, I will now confess all:</p>
<p>Hurricane Katrina was a racist.</p>
<p>“Katy,” as we called her in the labs of Halliburton, Inc., was unleashed by the Bush Administration and its evil minions in the oil industry using a super-secret, high-tech weather machine originally developed in the labs of Nazi Germany and passed down through the Skull and Bones Society at Yale. Just ask John Kerryhe knows all about it.</p>
<p>Of course Katrina hit New Orleans and its predominantly black population, and largely avoided the mostly white residents of the “Redneck Rivera” of the Florida panhandle. Don’t you remember how Katrina started out hitting Florida, then swung around the entire state in order to get a clean shot at the Big Easy? All part of the plan.</p>
<p>The folks in the Congressional Black Caucus know. They know that Katrina (why not “Catherine?” No “K,” of course) was created by the Bushies to accomplish two key goals: disrupt oil supplies so when the US finishes stealing all the black gold from Iraq, the prices will remain high; and kill lots of black people, who historically tend to vote Democrat, so the GOP can dominate the South.</p>
<p>Those blacks who didn’t die were to be disenfranchised by being labeled “refugees,” one of the most insulting and racist terms in the English language, so demeaning it has often been used in the past to describe Jews.</p>
<p>See how the conspiracy all fits together?</p>
<p>But the plan almost failed. Despite the best efforts of the weather masters at NASA, Katrina hit to the east of New Orleans, allowing the levees to hold. Then, suddenly, the levees failed nearly a day later. What really happened?</p>
<p>To find out, consider this question from a sharp-eyed reporter at the Bush/Clinton hurricane aid press conference: “How do you respond to rumors that the levees were intentionally opened?”</p>
<p>Aha! Caught again! The levee system, which withstood the hurricane itself, had to be blown the next day, using a secret, silent explosive developed by the Pentagon for the Contras in Nicaragua back in the '80sall funded by the CIA thanks to profits from selling crack to inner-city blacks.</p>
<p>The levees were breached, the city was flooded. Next came step three: forcing all the rescue boats, trucks and buses to sit idle on the outskirts of New Orleans for a week, waiting for more black people to die.</p>
<p>Why, of course that’s what happened. Oh, sure, you could blame FEMA’s horrifically incompetent performance on the fact that the head of FEMA is a nitwit named Michael Brown whose previous “emergency management” experience was running horse sows for the International Arabian Horse Associationa job he was forced out of due to incompetence. But that’s the easy, obvious answer the conspirators want you to buy.</p>
<p>Congressman Elijah Cummings of the Black Caucus saw right through that. The people in New Orleans could have been rescued, as he put it, “in a snap,” but they weren’t because they were black. Instead, “poverty, age or skin color” determined who lived and died in this storm, Cummings told reporters.</p>
<p>Hilary Shelton, head of the DC NAACP, was even more specific: “Boatloads of white Americans [were] taken away from New Orleans, while thousands of African-Americans were left behind.”</p>
<p>In other words, Louisiana National Guardsmen, New Orleans cops (those who actually showed up for work or weren’t too busy looting local Wal-Marts) and Red Cross workers were all sitting in their trucks ready to go into the city, but waited patiently while FEMA managers told them “Can’t go in yettoo many black people still alive! Let’s wait 'til we get a few more floaters.”</p>
<p>Some dismiss this theory as paranoid nonsense, pointing out that many of those Guardsmen, cops and volunteers were black, too, and would likely object to being part of such a murderous, racist plot.</p>
<p>Ah, but I haven’t told you about the Karl Rove Mind-Control Ray, now have I?</p>
<p>There’s no reason to hide it anymore. Even rap stars like Kanye West have figured it out. “George Bush doesn’t like black people.” Just ask Condi Rice, Rod Paige or Colin Powell. Air America’s Randi Rhodes knows it. She said the Bush is happy when black people are dying. That’s why he signed a bill sending $10.5 billion in hurricane relief, much of it going to black communities in Louisiana and Mississippi.</p>
<p>When members of the Congressional Black Caucus compare conditions at the Houston Astrodome to slavery; when Jesse Jackson, Jr. defends the right of looters to steal plasma TVs in order to eat (there’s a recipe I’d like to have); when Randall Robinson “reports” that “black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive” (a recipe I’d rather skip); when these unfounded charges are repeated again and again, inflaming racial tension at a time of great national tragedywhat these courageous leaders of America’s black community are really saying is “It doesn’t matter how many millions of white Americans send how many billions in aid and charity to those suffering along the Gulf. America is still racist and we know it! You can’t fool us!”</p>
<p>And I ask you, in all honesty: Who can argue with logic like that?</p>
<p>Not me, thats for sure.</p>
<p>NICE! omg lololol im going to frame that and put it on my wall!!!</p>
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<p>HAHA YOU ARE AN UTTER SHEEP!!? <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Arab-Israeli_War[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Arab-Israeli_War</a></p>
<p>Can you remind me how it was a war of aggression? Should I remind you of Nasser’s troops moving in to provoke Jerusalem? You are a tool. Congratulations.</p>
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<p>Do you not see the utter propogonda that you present to me? You are the epitome of someone brainwashed by Arab propogonda. Come on tell me, do you believe what your “sources” say is not biased?</p>
<p>Look at this site <a href=“http://judicial-inc.biz/False_Flags_summary.htm[/url]”>http://judicial-inc.biz/False_Flags_summary.htm</a>
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<p>You are the most racist, hateful, and ignorant person I have ever known. believing crap like this leads me to three conclusions:
A) You are an utter moron
B) You are racist
C) A & B</p>
<p>Overwhelming evidence exists to suppport C. </p>
<p>Look at this from your site:
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<p>Everyone see? THese are the true views of hardstyle prep.</p>
<p>There is no point arguing with such a brainwashed bigot such as you. I realize that I am sounding repetitive, but this website shows your true colors.</p>
<p>“Jewish thugs were paid on Kristallnacht to kill Jews?” “it wasn’t the nazis?” Wow, honestly go to hell for posting utter crap like that. Do you have any idea how offensive that is? You should be banned. Honestly, go to hell with the crap that you spew.</p>
<p>More from hardstyleprep’s site<br>
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<p>This is exactly what hardstyle thinks!! Since he was a Jew, he must have leaked intelligence to the Germans in order to kill those civilians. </p>
<p>Hardstyle, you aren’t fooling anyone. You are the most ardent and rabid racist here on these forums. While zionism and Judaism are not the same, its obvious that you have been attempting to hide your true anti-semitism behind that cliche phrase. If you honestly believe what that website says, and even more, present it as EVIDENCE IN AN ARGUMENT, you sir, are scum. You have the temerity to post an article from a website claiming that a Jewish massacre never happened, and it was the “Jewish thugs” who were paid by other Jews in order blame the innocent nazis. You can be placed among the ranks of bigots like Louis Farrakhan with your archaic and prejudiced views. The games over, and you lose.</p>
<p>Jews Against Zionism
Thank Jeff
From M. Katz
jewsagainstzionism.com
7-13-4</p>
<p>I was born in Israel (Palestine then) to a well-known Jewish religious family. We are living in Israel for many generations; well before the Zionists infiltrated the Middle East. Jews and Moslems always lived in peace in Palestine until the Zionists came from Europe, massacred the Palestinians (Dir Yassin, etc.) and forced them to run away from their lands and get locked into the refugee camps across the borders for almost three generations. </p>
<p>Studying in a Jewish religious school in Tel Aviv, I was taught that the ‘bad Arabs’ conducted pogroms all over Palestine killing Jews. My family told me the opposite: we lived in Palestine in peace for generations with our Moslem brothers. When the Zionists started their pogroms (Dir Yassin), the Moslem acted in revenge and started their own pogroms, killing Jews. However, our Moslem friends actually saved the lives of our family by hiding us in their own houses at a risk to their own lives. </p>
<p>Being intellectually lazy, I never actually scrutinized during the first fifty years of my life what is really Zionism, like most Israelis I was told that I am a Zionist, I just believed all the lies I read in the Israeli press since the fifties. I was always surprised how for 50 years the Zionist organizations were manipulating the American Jews to squeeze money out of them.
Now that I started to re-study Zionist history, I was amazed how honest our Prime Minister David Ben Gurion was when he said: “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. Politically, we are the aggressors, and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view, we want to take away from them their country.” </p>
<p>Any student of history knows that as early as 1915, Britain already promised Palestine to the Palestinians Arabs if they help in removing the Turks from Palestine. That promise was broken. </p>
<p>I was in the Israeli Air Force and later worked for the Israeli Defence Dept., as well as the Nuclear Physics Dept. in the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Nuclear Reactor at the Wiezmann Institute Of Science. I know Israelis very well, as most of my friends are Israelis and/or Jewish. I can assure you that most of my friends are anti-Zionists, just like Mr. Rense. </p>
<p>Furthermore, over half of Israeli citizens will tell you that they are not Zionists and most embassies in Israel are flooded for the last few years with Israelis wishing to immigrate to other countries. </p>
<p>I know that Jeff is supported by many Jews around the world. I have introduced him to dozens of Jews in Israel and many other countries. He has interviewed on his radio program: Israeli professors from Tel Aviv University; a former member of the Israeli parliament (Knesset); active Israeli defence forces personnel, and Israeli peace movement activists among others. </p>
<p>Mr. Rense is unquestionably one of the most respected international radio broadcast journalists in the world. His ethics and honesty are legendary, and he is often quoted widely on the Internet. I can also tell you that most major US and world media watch what he posts very closely as his information is often weeks or months ahead of the curve. </p>
<p>We Jews treasure Mr. Rense as he, alone, tries to protect us from the manipulations of the Zionists minority who highjacked our Jewish religion and are controlling almost 100% of the news media in the west. I know of no broadcaster who interviews more Jews and Israelis than Mr. Rense. Furthermore, I know of no other website which provides such a wide spectrum of articles on Jews, Israelis and the Middle East. </p>
<p>It is pure insanity and/or evil intent to vilify such a towering personality like Jeff Rense as an ‘anti Jewish’. </p>
<p>Like most Israelis I participated in the Six Days War (1967), and many of my friends and family died in the defence of Israel. At that time we were told that we took the Arab lands in order to exchange them later for a permanent peace. </p>
<p>Shortly after, General Moshe Dayan changed his mind and said that he envisaged Israel’s boundaries to extend beyond Jordan, the Golan Heights, and even to Lebanon and central Syria. At that time, I realised for the first time that the Zionists are using us Israelis as pawns in their quest for world domination. That was enough for me; I left Israel to the USA to work for the UCLA Physics Dept. and the computer industry, and returned my passport to the Israeli Embassy renouncing my Israeli citizenship. </p>
<p>Many waters pass in the Jordan River since then. Most of the original wonderful, innocent and idealistic Chalutsim who created Israel with their wonderful spirit and beautiful Jewish ethics have already left Israel and are spread again around the world. </p>
<p>Israel, today, has nothing to do with Israel of pre-1967. We have a new Israel now controlled by a coalition of former Jewish terror organizations under the Likud Party. Israel replaced the original idealists with a collection of Jews from Ethiopia, Russia,. American fanatics, etc. Now The world is equating Israel with the Nazis, even Israeli MKs calling each other Nazis in the Knesset. And last week, an Israeli newspaper published an interview with a young Israeli soldier who calmly justify his own killing of dozens of Palestinian children, something even the Nazis did not do. The IDF has him now under investigation. </p>
<p>Israel’s reputation is in the mud, we could not possibly go lower. What hurt Jews around the world the most, is that many websites started to define IDF(Israeli Defence Force) as ITF(Israeli Terror Force). Idealistic Israel has turned into the final Zionist holocaust of Jews. Young Israelis are now travelling around the world refusing to return to Israel to serve in the IDF. They are forming communities in remote places such as India, Thailand etc. </p>
<p>The Prime Minister of New Zealand boldly described Zionist Israel last month as ‘a nation of spies and criminals.’ Jews worldwide are overwhelmed when many diplomats now describe Israel as the world?s #1 terrorist country. To add fuel to the fire, Prof. Martin Van Creveld, a Military Historian in Jerusalem said (Feb 1st, 2003): “The Palestinians should all be deported!” (from their own country?). Further in his interview, he made the interesting statement that: “Most European capitals are targets of our air force.”!!! Israel is widely-reputed to have few hundreds nuclear warheads. Need I say more? Poland is now a Zionist base; they bought Israeli tanks and more, and they allow the Israeli Air Force to fly over Poland. </p>
<p>I know of hundreds of Israelis who are reading Mr. Rense and listening to his program daily, as he is the most accurate source of information about Israel, Judaism and the Middle East. Most of Mr. Rense sources of information are Jewish. Jeff is often interviewing Barry Chamish in Israel who is Israel’s top investigative journalist. Barry is the most famous Israeli journalist in the world, and he is travelling often around the world lecturing to Jewish communities. Barry is the journalist who exposed the Zionists as the culprits behind the Assassination of the Israeli Prime Minister Rabin. He wrote a book about it which was #1 best seller in Israel. His book is credited as turning over a million Israelis from Zionists to non-Zionists, and led to a flood of Israelis escaping to other countries. Barry is one of the most ‘Jewish’ of Israelis and holds Mr. Rense in very high regard. </p>
<p>If all of us Jews are anti-Zionists, why would Mr. Rense not be allowed to hold same views? After all, we educated him.</p>