Again I haven’t done the math but I’m just thinking that Princeton would not be more competitive if one has the top test scores. In that case I’m thinking Stanford is more competitive, because if you have a top test score and Stanford tends to admit more people with lower test scores than Princeton, then you don’t have as good of a shot at Stanford (assuming matriculated stats agree mostly with accepted stats). </p>
<p>So basically I’m saying if you have a 2380, you have a better shot at Princeton than Stanford. If you have a 1900, the reverse seems true. The common saying, after all, is if you have a 2400 you should apply to Princeton (I think I phrased it a bit nicer though). Did I make some logical flaw here?</p>
<p>I’d appreciate it if we didn’t make this another Stanford vs. Princeton thread. I think we can agree that they are both fantastic schools and anyone of us would go to either place in a heartbeat were we accepted(unless we were lucky enough to get accepted into both places).</p>
<p>Unhooked applicants, or those applicants without a really unique (and/or presigious) EC, national ranking, award, etc. had the odds stacked very much against them-- regardless of unbelievable stats, recs, and essays.</p>
<p>I think the reason that Stanford has a higher yield even despite a lower ranking is that it’s a more pleasant place to go to school. Even if you might get a (marginally) better education at HYP, you’d have a better time in sunny California than in the snowy, socially conservative, and pressure-filled New England schools, and for that reason people with multiple acceptances tend to choose Stanford.</p>
<p>After thinking this through a few times, I’m actually glad Stanford rejected me, because I’m starting to feel like I actually wouldn’t belong there even if I did get accepted. In other words, Stanford could tell that I wasn’t a “good fit”, which seems to be the most important factor in their decisions.</p>
<p>When you get rejected, take it as them doing you a favor. It’s a way of them saying “Hey, you may be able to take all the work we’ll throw at ya, but there’s a college out there better for you than us. So go ahead and take it.”</p>
Stanford has palm trees in sunny, beautiful, and clean California…Columbia is in dirty NY with rats & where snow is going to be a nuisance and not any fun. Give up hope, sucks that you ppl were rejected. sucks real hard</p>
<p>to the first post, being rejected does suck. I really really wanted to go to Stanford, but I got rejected this year. I feel the same way - Princeton’s probably going to treat me the same.</p>
<p>yeah, i got rejected REA from stanford too. i know it was in an earlier post, but I think every person who was rejected NEEDS to know that stanford doesn’t usually defer (so the rejection isn’t as harsh as you may first think!). </p>
<p>i was sort of in shock at first, but at the end of the day it’s not a big deal. there are so many opportunities that have opened up (i’m applying to 7 more schools, and yes, there are multiple ivies on that list haha) and I’m starting to think that some of those schools may actually be a better fit for me. i also know that I did my best to the point that i’m still puzzled as to why I was rejected–my essays were really good and i had good stats and extracurriculars. though i’m pretty much over hating stanford at this point, i think that if they can’t see that I deserve to be part of their class of 2015, then they just suck.</p>
<p>also it just added insult to injury that I know two very obnoxious kids who were accepted to stanford from my school. the entire senior class (including kids who don’t know i was rejected) is really confused about this… </p>
<p>good luck to everyone come april! i’m sure we’ll find our places.</p>
<p>Oh my goodness, if i do get rejected I’m probably going to be depressed for a long time. I doubt any hating on Stanford and thinking, “well, it just wasn’t a goof fit” or “there are better colleges out there” will make me feel better because I’ll know they’re complete lies. </p>
<p>Anyway, hopefully I won’t get rejected but if I do, it is going to surpass “it sucks” by far.
Good luck to everyone else!</p>
<p>^Why not just assume you’re rejected right now? Sure you can’t be 100% certain, but just convince yourself that you won’t be accepted. That shouldn’t be too hard. Then, should you be rejected for reals, it will obviously be disappointing but you’ve been rejected for three months so you’re used to it. </p>
<p>Almost anyone who is surprised or shocked when they are rejected by Stanford is looking at it, in my opinion, the wrong way. </p>
<p>Yeah sorry to be a downer. But what’s the point of getting your hopes up for an impending disappointment?</p>
<p>No, there aren’t, Dad2, though you can be counted on for taking every opportunity to make this kind of statement, LOL. Stanford is fantastic and unique in ways that you have to be here to fully realize–the experience transcends the kinds of lifeless data points people like to whip out to argue about colleges. That’s why people have such a hard time letting go of their disappointment when they, or their kids, aren’t admitted, though of course there are lots of great colleges out there.</p>
<p>Z.- 10-20 “at least as good” colleges/universities is not a particularly sweeping statement, given that there are thousands of schools in the U.S… I don’t think that too many undergraduate CalTechers or Yalies or Swatties or whatever ( I can suggest a bunch of other elite schools) would agree with you that they aren’t “as good” as Stanford.</p>
<p>I have yet to experience my first ever rejection letter… Let’s see how it goes. It might be some time though (from Stanford) as I applied under RD :D</p>
<p>I didn’t say it was sweeping, Dad2, just inaccurate. Stanford has a combination of attributes that really make it sui generis, and in a not-entirely-quantifiable way–even by a quanty guy like me. Glad you got your plug for Swarthmore in there, though! ; )</p>
<p>Andrew Luck is staying at Stanford instead of going into the NFL and signing as the number one pick for millions.</p>
<p>His main reason is that he wants to finish his Stanford education and would miss the Stanford experience too much if he left early. Therefore Stanford > NFL. </p>
<p>“Why not just assume you’re rejected right now? Sure you can’t be 100% certain, but just convince yourself that you won’t be accepted. That shouldn’t be too hard. Then, should you be rejected for reals, it will obviously be disappointing but you’ve been rejected for three months so you’re used to it.”</p>
<p>Seems simple and obvious, but this is the mind set every college applicant needs to have! It’s humble thinking, and an approach that makes you work harder. Assume that you’ve put your best face forward with you application but that the chances are so slim you’ll have better luck with Lotto.</p>
<p>And Andrew Luck - pure class man; all five Stanford players interviewed after the O-Bowl; just high class smart, articulate dudes.</p>
<p>BTW, if you didn’t get in to Stanford for undergrad try again for grad school</p>