Best PreLaw Schools.

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Further, While you all have some pretty interesting stories that frame the way state Us grade, a) it’s not limited to just public schools b) that’s not a good representation of all schools c) nor is this backed up by any type of study.

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<p>So what do you want to see? What would satisfy you? </p>

<p>Grading of private schools:
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/harvard.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/harvard.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/stanford.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/stanford.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/brown.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/brown.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Grading of public schools:
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/berkeley.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/berkeley.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/texas.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/texas.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/wisconsin.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/wisconsin.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/illinois.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/illinois.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/gtech.html[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/gtech.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Finally, grade inflation is WELL KNOWN BY LAW SCHOOLS. The point of the LSAT? Because of inflation/different ways to calculate a GPA, etc. So a) the LSAT decreases that advantage a prestigious school has over a lower ranked school b) the grade inflation is looked down on and c) if you’re smarter than your class you will get top grades w/o inflation. However, the same arguments used about the randomness of a state U can be applied to a top private.

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<p>Ah, well now we’re getting into an interesting topic. I agree that law school adcoms may well know where the grade inflation is. But the real question is whether they choose to do anything about it.</p>

<p>Don’t believe me? OK. Let’s look at the data. Specifically, let’s look at Yale prelaws vs. Berkeley prelaws. I think it’s safe to say that Yale is more grade inflated than Berkeley. So let’s look at the elite law schools that Yale prelaws and Berkeley prelaws get admitted to. Let’s exclude Berkeley Boalt Law and Yale Law to eliminate any possibility of homefield advantage. I print the name of the law school, the GPA and LSAT of the Berkeley prelaws who got admitted, followed by the GPA and the LSAT of the Yale prelaws who got admitted:</p>

<p>Stanford Law - 3.99/170, 3.82/170
Harvard Law - 3.93/171, 3.82/172
UChicago Law - 3.85/171, 3.66/169
Columbia Law - 3.89/172, 3.74/171
NYU Law - 3.83/171, 3.72/171
UPenn Law - 3.80/172, 3.66/168
Cornell Law - 3.71/170, 3.59/164.4
UCLA Law - 3.8/168, 3.61/168
UVA Law - 3.81/172, 3.65/168
UMichigan Law - 3.84/170, 3.64/168 </p>

<p>I think I can stop here, because the data is consistent. In each case, the law school required HIGHER grades from the Berkeley prelaw than a Yale prelaw to merit admission. Yep, that’s right, HIGHER. This completely flies in the face of the assertion that law schools know that a state school like Berkeley suffers from grade deflation and then adjusts accordingly. If this was true, then you’d expect that the Berkeley prelaws who were getting admitted would have lower average grades than the admitted Yale prelaws. However, the data indicates that Berkeley prelaws required HIGHER grades. One could say that the law schools were not rewarding Berkeley prelaws for attending a grade deflated school, instead they were punishing them. That’s right - punished. </p>

<p>Nor can this be explained by LSAT scores, which is why I included them in the analysis. Notice that with only a few exceptions , Berkeley prelaws not only needed both higher grades than did Yale prelaws, but also required higher LSAT scores. Yep, that’s right, in the vast majority of cases, the Berkeley prelaws required both a higher GPA and a higher LSAT score. Yep, higher. Don’t believe it? Look at the data yourself. You tell me what’s going on.</p>

<p><a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm[/url]”>http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/career/students...tistics2003.pdf[/url]”>http://www.yale.edu/career/students...tistics2003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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50 kids in a class could all have been 4.0 HS students. You might not even be in the top half of that course.

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<p>Yes, but it may not matter. I’ve witnessed classes at elite schools where the lowest grade was an A-. What matters is not your class rank, but rather your grades. Hypothetically speaking, you could be the worst student in the whole class, but for the purposes of law school admission, that doesn’t matter if you still get a relatively good grade anyway. </p>

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I think the fact that top schools are seen more at top law schools shows not that lower ranked schools can’t place at top law schools, but that kids from Brown are more likely to WANT graduate education.

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<p>I would assert that plenty of students at the lower-ranked schools would love to get into a top law school, but don’t get the high grades necessary to make them competitive to get in. In fact, they may want it even more than a guy who is doing well at an elite school. After all, think about it. Go to a student who is doing poorly at a no-name school and ask him if he would like to be admitted to Yale Law. I think it’s a no-brainer. After all, think about it. If you’re doing poorly at a no-name school, your career prospects probably aren’t very good. I would imagine that such a person would give his right arm to go to Yale Law, because that’s a whole lot better than anything else he has going for him after graduation. Some guy who graduates from the top of his class at Harvard has a world of opportunities available to him, so he may have better things to do than go to Yale Law. Some guy who barely makes it out of a no-name school would probably see Yale Law as by far the best of his available options. </p>

<p>The reason why that guy doesn’t apply to Yale Law is simple - it’s because he doesn’t think he will get in. I’d love to play for the Red Sox, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to waste my time in a tryout. I know I’m not good enough at baseball to get picked in a tryout. But if the Red Sox were to simply hand me a roster spot, you’re darn right I’d take it.</p>