<p>True, grad is weaker in VA than California. I will concede that.
But how many people do grad in comparison to undergrad? Undergrad is much more important than graduate, since exponentially more kids go through the undergrad programs.
When you get an undergrad Business program that’s #5, #2 according to Businessweek (ahead of Berkley, Wharton, etc.) it’s clear that the school does a better job with the majority of the students.</p>
<p>We dont see Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore on these lists for the same reason WM isnt on it. It’s not a school that focuses on grad school. On the other hand, anybody would agree that PolSci and IR from both WM and UVA blow any UC school out of the water.</p>
<p>In this discussion, you are looking at the math-science stuff. The grad school. The doctors and scientists.
Im looking at undergrad, humanities, business, economics, law, liberal arts…
In these categories, VA clearly does a better job. </p>
<p>BTW I’d be careful when using hyperbole such as starting a paragraph with “UVa’s incompetence in the math and science…” It is not only rude, but also completely untrue. Making sweeping statements just damages your credibility.</p>