Big name public universities (Berkeley/UVA/Michigan/UNC/UCLA) Versus Non-HYP ivies

<p>On post # 1, I started this thread showing the overall trend of the rising of Non-HYP ivies (.i.e., Brown/Columbia/Cornell/Dartmouth/Penn) versus falling of big name public universities (Berkeley/UVA/Michigan/UNC/UCLA/UIUC/UTAustin/Wisconsin) based on USNews’ assessment for undergraduate rather than graduate education. It’s a very different story for graduate education. </p>

<p>About two months ago, NRC published their decadal assessment of doctoral programs. R-rankings (quasi reputation-based) and S-Rankings (survey-based) are the two major components used for NRC 2010 rankings. It is not difficult for one to find a high degree of disconcert between the two. In spite of controversy, I like R-rankings for they reflected the contemporary reputation survey of institutions, similar approaches used for their (NRC’s) 1983 and 1995 rankings. MetaEzra, a website founded and run by Cornell alumni, posted its overall PhD programs rankings entitled “In Composite 2010 NRC Rankings, Cornell Ranks 9th” based on R-rankings of 12 core fields. </p>

<p>Please see the comparative results between aforementioned universities for both undergraduate and PhD education. </p>

<p>PhD Programs Rankings in 2010 (MetaEzra 2010):
Cornell (9), Columbia (13), Penn (14), Brown (25), Dartmouth (82)
Berkeley (1), UCLA (6), Michigan (8), UTAustin (15), Wisconsin (16), UIUC (17), UNC (22), UVA (36)</p>

<p>Undergraduate Rankings in the 2000s (USnews 2000-2010):
Penn (4-7), Columbia (4-11), Dartmouth (9-11), Cornell (10-15), Brown (13-17)
Berkeley (20-21), UVA (20-25), Michigan (22-29), UCLA (24-26), UNC (25-30), UIUC (30±40+), Wisconsin (30+), UTAustin (40+)</p>