<p>Hopefully this won’t turn into the three ring circus or Chautauqua tent that the Terri Schiavo incident did, but I am sure it will, I am sure politicians who on one hand are screaming about medicaid and medicare costs will on the other hand be making statements that the girls body should be kept alive, without thinking of course of the cost. I hope this gets settled based on logic and the law, but I suspect we will see a lot more grandstanding on this, as the religious types and their allies use this as a grand stage for their desire to push their beliefs on others <em>sigh</em>. I can’t get mad at the parents, as a parent I can’t even begin to fathom what they feel, and hanging on to hope may be all they have; but they also need to come to reality, that their child is no longer there, only her body…and in many ways, it is no different than keeping an embalmed person around, the cells may be alive, the organs kept going, but both are equally no longer the person.</p>
<p>“Religious types” are not supporting this. That my be the claim but this imho has nothing to do with religion. It’s anger, desperation, and shock. Nothing more.</p>
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Huh?? Whose distinction is that? Every military serviceman’s DEAD BODY, brought home from the line of duty is transported and laid to rest with dignity. In fact, every dead body transported, via plane, train or hearse, is handled with dignity. In my religion people sit with the DEAD BODY and treat it with respect and dignity as it is prepared for burial. I think yours is a distinction without a difference.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who thinks this is a reasonable solution, one that might lead to the family accepting the reality that their daughter is dead?</p>
<p>Strictly from a mediation standpoint, the decision is fair to both sides. The hospital is not forced to compromise it’s ethics and the family can take their child home. It is a tragic case and my prayers are with not only the family, but the nurses and staff members that have been caring for Jahai. My own feeling is that the hospital did not forsee the consequences and did not meet the emotional needs of the family. I do not know if malpractice is involved, an investigation will shed light on this question.</p>
<p>Given what is occurring, meeting the emotional needs of this family my have been impossible.</p>
<p>I see that Sally and I cross posted. Yes, I think it was a Solomon type decision. The hospital knows that Jahai is dead and that transferring her without proper ventilation will cause her heart and lungs to cease, her family knows this as well, yet they are the ones faced with making the decision that they have requested. Very sad.</p>
<p>sally,
See my last line below the quote in post 814.</p>
<p>INTERESTING UPDATE: They CHANGED the first paragraph of that article. It no longer says they can take her home.
[Jahi</a> McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules - San Jose Mercury News](<a href=“Jahi McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules – The Mercury News”>Jahi McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules – The Mercury News)</p>
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<p>Sorry, jym. I didn’t see that below your quoted text before.</p>
<p>No worries.
Well, it DID seem like a best possible solution, but now that word “home” has been removed from the article.</p>
<p>Only in America would this be an issue! She’s dead, sheesh.</p>
<p>Regarding the sorting out of any malpractice issues . . . I think that may be difficult. The best source of information regarding what actually happened to Jahi would have been a timely autopsy. It’s now appearing increasingly likely that there will be no autopsy whatsoever, timely or otherwise.</p>
<p>That leaves only the hospital’s record of what transpired, the family’s recollection of the events they observed . . . and lots of speculation. In the event an error was actually made, it may be impossible to identify it.</p>
<p>But the article above says the coroners office did not list a cause of death, pending an autopsy…</p>
<p>Of course, if you go to them main page of that neswpaper’s website (Mercury News), it still says, in a “breaking news” headline, that the mom can take Jahi home, though thats now removed from the article. Who knows.</p>
<p>I think it’s stuck at who knows until the end of the Federal hearing. They’re on a lunch break</p>
<p>I’m not so sure that a prompt autopsy would have made a difference. People in the know here and elsewhere say that severe bleeding is a possible complication of this surgery no matter how correctly it was done. The family has previously alleged that the hospital was not quick enough to respond to the bleeding. An autopsy could not shed light on that.</p>
<p>Maybe it is due to the lunch break. This link, if it isnt updated, shows the red banner “breaking news” with the statement that she can take her home, but the first paragraph has removed this from the text. I give up [Jahi</a> McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules - San Jose Mercury News](<a href=“Jahi McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules – The Mercury News”>Jahi McMath: Mom can remove brain-dead daughter from hospital, judge rules – The Mercury News)</p>
<p>The press is just as confused as anyone else right now. And they usually don’t go to lunch when they are almost finished so… patience.</p>
<p>And this article says she can NOT take her home, but has to go to another medical facility [Judge</a> Rules Family Can Remove Jahi McMath From Hospital | KQED News Fix](<a href=“News Fix Archives | KQED News”>News Fix Archives | KQED News)</p>
<p>Just trying to present accurate info. Hard to follow the bouncing ball…</p>
<p>The Mercury News link says the death certificate lists Dec 12 as the date of Jahi’s death. It also says that getting a feeding tube is critical since 4 weeks is the upper limit of the time a body can survive without nutrition. From what I’ve read, larger bodies and children’s bodies usually last longer than smaller, older bodies. It has been 24 days…</p>