Spain is already saying it won’t vote for Scottish membership in the EU. Spain is afraid it will encourage Catalan secession.
The int’l accepted practice of assigning offshore oil rights:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20042070
"Why? Because that majority is “wrong”
I would call them gullible.
They are like the people who get scammed out of their money by Nigerian princes.
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And…
The wise, fully actualized elite is just trying to save the bubbas’ of the world from themselves.
8-| . It’s a common thread…obviously if an opinion (in this case a majority opinion) deviates from what has been deemed ‘best’ by those that ‘know’…well…obviously the masses are
un-edubakateble and must somehow be brought into line.
That’s fair. Let me put it another way.
When and how will we begin to address the grievances of the working class and others who have been left behind by the new/global economy?
“Why? Because that majority is ‘wrong.’”
Time will tell whether the majority who voted were “right” or “wrong.” But there is no shortage of economists who are predicting that it will be a very rough road for quite some time. And because of that, I don’t think people will ultimately be questioning whether they were “right” or “wrong.” They’ll just be wondering “whether it was worth it.”
We could start by not signing the TPP agreement - which by standard definition is a treaty - but that’s another issue.
That majority was lied to, as Farage admitted on Friday morning. If not for the lie that the NHS would be funded at 350M pounds per year, it’s likely that Brexit would have been defeated. As Farage himself said when asked about the many people who voted based on that: “They made a mistake.”
Whaaaat…someone LIED in politics…oh I am speechless…were they told they got to keep their plan and that the cost was going to go down?
It’s pretty rare that a politician comes out 6 hours after he’s won and admits on TV that the central promise of his campaign was a bald-faced lie, yes.
Dietz, whether it is funding the NHS or an assurance that WMDs are actually present, the fact is that some mischaracterizations the public rallies behind can end up being very costly to a nation over a long period of time.
Sure, Brexit might result in a revitalized, economically strong England. I’m not putting my money on it, however.
ANSWER: When the working class and others give a swift kick in the butt by something like a Leave vote. That’s when you will start to pay attention to the rabble.
@LasMa. Regretfully very few politicians every directly admit that they lied. They just hope there is enough time between the lie and the time the duped voters realize what happens that they can live to run another day. I can’t imagine anyone is surprised that politicians lie. If that is cause for a ‘re-do’ boy are we in trouble.
@TomSrOfBoston Did I call them rabble? No, I didn’t. They are people who, 40 years ago, were making a good living and treated with respect as the engine which powered the developed world. Since then, their wages have stagnated at best, education, health care, housing and other services become less and less available to them, and they have been kicked to the curb. They are right to be enraged.
I see little to no chance for a re-do. I think the best they might hope for is some sort of negotiated “associate state” status with the EU, which keeps some trade provisions in place but allows them to erect a wall around the island, keeping the immigrants out. There’s a company in Scotland that might help with that.
@MidwestDad3 Britain will not be keeping immigrants out. They will be able to control who is allowed in.
I’m not so sure, Tom. Some of the “leavers” who were interviewed sounded like they did not want any immigrants at all. It will be interesting to see how a country so divided reaches consensus on even this one issue (that is, who can come in, and who can’t), let alone all of the other issues that now have to be faced.
“When the working class and others give a swift kick in the butt by something like a Leave vote”
The ones who will feel the economic effects of this “kick in the butt” is the working class in the UK.
They have ended up kicking themselves. All because of a misguided, wistful longing for a "merry old "England , just like it was in the "good old days ,before the EU . …
That England is gone forever .
the Leavers were fools…
“swift kick in the butt by something like a Leave vote. That’s when you will start to pay attention to the rabble.”
If you believe that I have a wall to sell you.
“some of the leavers” are not the British government. To say that Britain will not allow any more immigrants is a scare tactic to get immigrants to vote to Remain.
^^^Yes, I don’t know too many people who make their best decisions when they are angry.