<p>@desigirl23- Besides you do not know you want to be a primary care provider. You may very well change your mind. I changed my mind 4 times before I finished school. Really, 4 times, as a matter of fact I planned by 4th year schedule based on a plan to do a specialty that I did not eventually go into.</p>
<p>@banyen, choose Miami. It is a terrific undergrad as well as med school. I have been accepted to both but I would have chosen Miami over case if I had not had the option of Albany. The reason for choosing Albany over Miami despite the UG scholarship is that I do not have to take MCAT! My opinion is that if I have to take MCAT and maintain 3.7 gpa, I might as well go to Johns Hopkins or other medical school.</p>
<p>@Desigirl, I agree with OhioParent. Do not go to a foreign school. Even though u r a citizen, u will still be treated as a fmg. If u r not comfortable taking Engg courses (which are definitely tougher than regular pre-med courses) and if you think you do not have an aptitude for engg, you should look into really good pre-med undergrad schools which have high acceptance to Med school (like emory, knox, carlton, tulane, even stony brook). I wish you all the best in ur decision and hope it is the best one for you whichever school you choose. Also, there are UG programs that will accept a student into medical school after the first year. You should check into them if it is not too late.</p>
<p>I’m really not sure of undergoing undergrad though as I just want to be guaranteed that I become a doctor.</p>
<p>Isn’t st George’s really the best medical school with 99% residency placement…, I think that is an exception plus everyone gets really good scores from that program</p>
<p>Desigirl, think of it this way (which helped me make choices for direct/combined programs): Is there a point applying to schools that require a high gpa plus mcat (like case western and many other combined programs)? if you have to take mcat and maintain gpa, it is not any different than a regular traditional route. Remember 90% of medical students have taken a traditional route! Eventually it is your decision and it is a tough one. In both the programs you mentioned, you are undergoing undergrad. In neither of them, there is a guarantee as they require gpa and/or mcat. Some of the only guaranteed programs out there are Brown PLME, Northwestern, Rice/Baylor(Ithink), UMKC and a few others. It is surely a tough decision. I am sure a lot of us seniors are having to make tough decisions this month</p>
<p>@pgans12 my S also got into U of Toledo BS/MD. He is selected for the Bacc/MD program which is a 7 year program and a non-engineering option. He is seriously considering going there. Let us know if you decide to go to U of Toledo. May be you both can think of rooming. Personally I feel U of Toledo is a good program with good match results. I went over their match results for the past 3 yrs. This year 3 students went to NorthWestern and 3 students went to Yale for their residencies. I do not know much about UMKC or its match results. I do undersdtand to think of match results at this stage is too early, but at the same time we are considering it as one of the deciding factors.</p>
<p>@daisy1111 as far as I know U of Toledo Bacc/MD 7 yr or BS/MD 8 yr programs are guaranteed programs as long as you maintain 3.5 cumulative GPA and contingent on your records check. You do not need MCAT. @deisgirl123, good luck with your decision. Please post what you eventually decide on.</p>
<p>@nkb are u from Ohio? Also what do u think I should do with u toledo? I’m so confused I really like the option but I hope I can finish it in 8 yrs… Rather than the 9</p>
<p>@daisy1111: Although Miami does require an MCAT score of 30, Case does not require students to take the MCAT. This is why deciding is so difficult!</p>
<p>@desigirl123, its a personal choice, if you are comfortable with engineering and confident of maintaining a 3.5 GPA, remember its a cumulative GPA not just engineering subjects which makes it a little easier to maintain the 3.5 GPA and you are okay with 8 yr program, then U of Toledo seems to be a good choice over FMG. One advantage with Toledo is you do need MCAT. Have you taken AP Physics? were you comfortable doing it? Also check the Biomedical Engineering curriculum in Univeristy of Toledo’s web site and see exactly what is required to graduate. Also check how many AP credits you will get, with enough AP credits and 4 years time, it might not be as hard as you thought. Any questions you have regarding your exact GPA requirements, AP credits I would suggest you email your BS/MD coordinator and clarify before you decide.</p>
<p>@desigirl, sorry small typo I meant to say No MCAT required.</p>
<p>@desigirl, sure where that statistic is from. If they have a 99% match rate in first choice for Derm, ophtho and neurosurg at Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins and UCLA then thats amazing. If they have a 99% match in the students 10th choice, in poorly rated residency programs in underfilled programs then that statistic doesn’t mean much. I don’t recall any students from where I went to school or where I teach now NOT getting a residency (so the 99% may be in very weak programs, remember the old phrase “two of junk is still junk”, sometimes statistics can be warped to give the results you want but they need to be evaluated very carefully, just like in medical liturature, food for thought)</p>
<p>I am so grateful for coming from TX and having the ability to choose the cheapest school ever with no UG Debt and one of the cheapest med schools in the USA (UTSW)</p>
<p>It’s definitely not poorly rated can u look at the st George’s website and see the residency appointments please? Tht would be helpful!</p>
<p>@Ohioparent,
your comment above has got me thinking. my parents both work in teaching hospitals as well. I am personally considering (again confused like many of us here) between UMKC, Albany programs or undergrad in top 10 or 15 universities and going the traditional route. I have seen match lists of many of the combined programs that do not require MCAT. The best match results out there are Brown PLME and northwesten hpme and maybe couple more. The rest of all colleges that do not require mcat have similar match stats varying slightly because of geography. Many State medical schools have higher match for primary care which is natural. How can you choose between 2 programs (excluding the top programs). I have spent hours looking at match results of various programs (now and before I applied) but I am still confused what would be a good choice for me. From the 2 picks for combined degree (UMKC and RPI/Albany), although I am convinced that i can keep up a 3.5 gpa at RPI/Albany, there is still a slight risk. UMKC is a loaded 6 year program. So confused!</p>
<p>@desigirl23, although in general the recommendation is MD>DO> overseas . In your case since you want to be a primary care physician choosing njit/Sgu makes sense. So go with your heart knowing either study hard for the MCAT or to maintain GPA . Good luck</p>
<p>Thanks magna7 I’m still deciding…</p>
<p>@desigirl23 I did not read all the messages in the thread, but if you have an opportunity to study in US - that should be your first choice.</p>
<p>@desigirl. I saw the list, these are not the top academic programs in the country, you want a comparison here a link I found. [Residency</a> Match Lists: Where Medical School Graduates Go after Graduation | Pre-Medical Allopathic [ MD ] | Student Doctor Network](<a href=“Residency Match Lists: Where Medical School Graduates Go after Graduation | Student Doctor Network”>Residency Match Lists: Where Medical School Graduates Go after Graduation | Student Doctor Network) The data is little older mid 2000’s but look at UChicago Pritzker school match for those years, its in a whole different strastophere. I still say go to the best medical school you can.</p>