California Couple Shackled and Malnourished Their 13 Children

Have not read this thread…

When i first heard about this, i thought they must live in a rural area. But no…a regular neighborhood. How could people not realize that something weird was going on? One neighbor says he would see the kids marching at night upstairs…he’d see them thru their windows. Why wouldn’t anyone call and at least ask cps to check this out???

Was the dad employed at the time of the arrest? I heard that at least one time he was employed as an engineer for an aerospace company?? I wonder if he listed all those kids on his insurance?

I think I read somewhere that the houses are only 9 ft apart!

I don’t think it would be any business of his employer’s how many children he had…except if he tried to list those over 26.

I helped at an Open Enrollment at a factory in Salt Lake City. Families with eight, 10 and even 12 children were not unusual.

No idea if this show will be informative or just exploitative, but this story will be covered on Dr Oz tomorrow.

@Consolation @VeryHappy
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I don’t think it’s the employer’s business. I was just curious if he ever bothered to list all of his kids on his insurance. Sounds like he didn’t want people to really know that they existed. Wonder if he neglected to get them SSN’s. Probably never listed them on his taxes.

I’m just curious as to the extent they went to keep the existence of these kids off the radar.

The children were reported to be all born in hospitals so they all must have a record of birth.

If you plan on starving them to death they will not need SS cards.
All of this goes even beyond mental illness. Well, being a sociopathic is a mental illness.
Just so rare to see two together. Other illness have a occasional respite at times–maybe the shower day once a year
was theirs:(.

Listing them on the tax return would have had some financial benefif. I wonder if the parents actually filled tax returns… they must have - to be able to buy a house.

I read through the thread and just wanted to comment on the appearance and engineer question. I worked in a very high tech environment for many years with probably hundreds of software engineers in different groups (from all over the US and the World). We were all in operating systems. My work was around 80% x86 asm with a little C on top. Almost everyone wore casual clothes and there were no hygiene issues that I remember. I was probably the most casual, with t-shirt, shorts, and flip-flops (weather permitting, not often!). About the only unusual appearance stuff was a very young programmer (I think she graduated from H at 20) who wore private schoolgirl clothes, one MIT guy who wore a suit and tie all the time, and another guy who always wore Hawaiian shirts. What we did for fun was unusual, like a nerd version of Jackss*: exploding plastic water bottles with dry ice, motorcycle in the halls, etc.

Anyway, coming from that background I can say that the Turpin guy looks like a weirdo to me (the hairdo). Creepy weird.

We were required to do the paperwork for D and S’s SSN before they could be discharged from the hospital. Is that only a rule in some places? And so far, we have no indication that there were other children in the family who starved to death, so I doubt that was the actual plan.

How much things have changed in the engineering world. IBM used to not allow facial hair or brown suits!

Update I just saw:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/us/yoyo-ma-plays-for-turpin-children/index.html

And back to the bizarre…the 17 year old who later fled posted videos on youtube under an alias when she was confined to the house.

http://abc7.com/teen-who-escaped-turpin-home-posted-videos-under-alias/3181135/

Say what??!

I saw that too, very confused. How did she have the computer knowledge or access? How did she even know about YouTube?

I wonder if she hoped that posting them would lead to their being rescued.

Seems that if she wanted to be rescued she wouldn’t have used an alias.

Maybe she was afraid that her parents would see her online activity before anyone attempts to even try to report that to someone who might alert authorities and was simply documenting her life so one day that information could be useful.

They did say that they had lots of movies and so forth. Some, or at least one, had at one point been to school. The youngest was not malnourished. Who knows what they had in the way of internet access.

It seems that they were not all necessarily treated exactly the same way. Perhaps some have deficits due to maltreatment that others do not have. She clearly had something that enabled her to reach out and escape that her siblings didn’t have, @gouf78 . It obviously took her a while to make it to that point. Given the many cases one reads about where people have been subject to controlling abusers for long periods of time, no such situation seems clear cut to me.

It can’t be required anywhere, but they forcefully told you that it was and you believed them. It is much easier to have the hospital apply for the SSN because otherwise you’d have to go get a birth certificate and take it to the SS office and wait for the number to arrive. Insurance companies want the number right away. Many tell new parents that they have to pick a name too, and that isn’t a law anywhere that I know of.

My friend refused to get a SSN for his daughter because he wanted to fly off the grid. He passed up many opportunities including tax deductions and Alaska permanent fund payments. He finally gave in and got her a SSN when she was about 8 or 10.