Just want to say that she sounds amazing, and her list of schools seems absolutely appropriate.
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S24 stats
homeschooled, partial pell-eligible (i.e. needed lots FA), applied to a mix of music and non-music schools (and still deciding which he wants)
southeastern suburb
1490 SAT (780EWR, 710M)
4.0 UW
7 APs (5 through junior year with 4 5s and one 4)
6 DE classes at a university
notes here: his transcript had a very strong tilt toward humanities, and he was clear that that’s what he was interested in studying in college as well…so most APs were in English and social sciences, but he does have Calc AB this year. Some interesting coursework like a 3000 level sociology class in which he was the only high schooler.
ECs
music, music, and more music. He plays French horn at a pretty high level, in two selective local youth ensembles, private lessons, district honor band, etc. Horn stuff took up a lot of his activity list slots (appropriately, since it takes up a lot of his time)
submitted music supplement (or auditioned) everywhere that allowed them (which I think was all except one school)
also piano lessons for 9 years, a bit of community theater, assorted D&D groups that he ran and/or participated in, volunteering at public library
results
auditioned music schools
-ED Vanderbilt/Blair, but only asked to be considered for music school; didn’t pass the prescreen, so that was out very early on
-didn’t pass prescreen for Oberlin Conservatory, so that one was out early as well
-accepted EA to UGA and then later to the music school
-accepted EA to St. Olaf for BA in music performance
-accepted to Lawrence Conservatory for 5 year dual degree program
The EA results shaped the RD list. He had a common app fee waiver, so application fees were not an issue. Since he already had EA schools he was happy with, the RD list was very reach-heavy. Every school had to pass the “is there a realistic chance I’d consider this school over St. Olaf and UGA” test. Every school except Lawrence on the RD list meets demonstrated need, and we focused on need-blind schools (they’re definitely not all need-blind, but if he was deciding between adding two schools to the list, the need-blind one would win)
non-music schools
accepted
Grinnell
Colby
Amherst
Oberlin
Vassar
Hamilton
Emory
waitlisted
Macalester (deferred EA, then waitlisted)
Bates
Kenyon
Brandeis
Rejected
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Brown
Emory’s Oxford campus
takeaways
-French horn is magical; I think it almost certainly was a huge factor in his admissions. And he’s very good, but he’s not the best, as his conservatory results make clear. I doubt playing at the same level on a more competitive instrument would have worked out as well for admissions
-focusing on need-blind schools was definitely the right strategy. He did significantly better at need-blind schools, even though these were the most selective schools.
-his SAT score didn’t seem to matter one way or the other. He was rejected at schools where it put him near or above the 75th% and accepted at schools where it was below the median (I think it was actually below the 25th% at Emory this year, in fact). We fretted a little about whether to go test optional some places, but ultimately decided it was a high enough score that it was unlikely to be THE thing that kept him out anywhere, and this proved to be the correct strategy. Better to submit the 1490 then let them think he was hiding a 1300 or something. We also figured his EWR was high anywhere, and he was clearly not headed for STEM, so the math score would be less likely to give anyone pause. I’m also glad, in retrospect, that he didn’t spend time working to get the math score up–he likely could have done it, but that time was better spent elsewhere (like practicing horn)
–overall, I’m very happy for him and excited to see where he ends up. I’m still a little stunned by some of the admits. He’s my third kid–the last one was music only, so a whole different game, but his oldest brother applied to a lot of the same schools with a similar transcript (though math heavy instead of humanities) and a significantly higher SAT, but nothing particularly exciting (to colleges anyway) in his ECs. He wound up with plenty of good options, but a lot more waitlists than this kid in the reach category. So I came into this warning him to expect the same kind of thing, and we were blown away by some of the admits (particularly since they mostly came in after the waitlists and rejections at less selective schools)
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Here is the final result for S24. He has not decide where to attend yet. Hopefully this help future CA applications to see how competitive UCs are.
Major applied to: Aerospace Eng (if NA, Mechanical Eng)
Unweighted GPA: 4.00
UC Capped Weighted GPA: 4.31
Fully Weighted GPA: 4.21
1440 SAT (780 Math, 660 Eng)
ELC (top 9% CA HS): Yes
Number of a-g courses: 27
Number of UC Approved Honors courses: 3
AP courses/exams (scores in parentheses): AP EURO(4), APUSH(5), AP CAL AB, AP GOV/MICRO
Extracurriculars: Color Guard Captain, Taekwondo (black belt 3rd Dan)
Volunteer/Community service: Taekwondo TA
State/location of HS (if domestic applicant): CA Bay Area
Applied for need-based financial aid? Yes
First Generation? No
Reach:
MIT (rejected)
Stanford (rejected)
USC (rejected)
UCB (rejected)
UCLA (rejected)
UCSD (rejected)
UCI (rejected)
UCSB (rejected)
Geogia Tech (rejected)
Cal Poly SLO (rejected)
Target:
UCD (Waitlisted)
SDSU (Accepted with Honor)
TAMU (Accepted)
tOSU (Accepted $14.5K merit/yr with Scholar)
UW (Seattle) (Accepted $4.2K merit/yr)
Purdue (Accepted, second choice Motor Sport Eng at Indi)
CPP (Accepted)
Safety:
UofArizona (Accepted $32K merit/yr)
Oregon State (Accepted WUE with Honor)
UCR (Accepted)
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Here’s the final results for D24. She’s a good student, but not amazing by CC standards!
D24
White/Caucasian
Very good midwest suburban HS
GPA: 3.8uw, 4.4w
Class Rank: N/A
ACT: 31 (34 math, 32 english, 29 science, 28 reading)
EC:
3 year varsity athlete in two different sports.
President of one club
Psychology Internship (basically shadowed a working therapist)
Part Time Job
(more of the usuals)
Essays/LOR: I think they were good, but every parent thinks these are good.
Major:
Psych/Marketing
Applied to:
Reach:
UF: rejected
UGA: deferred EA, accepted RD
Target:
FSU: accepted
UIUC: rejected
Purdue: accepted
tOSU: accepted
Virginia Tech: accepted
UTK: accepted with 13k merit
Saftey:
Utah: accepted
St Mary’s at Notre Dame: accepted with 29k merit
The only surprises were the UIUC rejection and the UGA acceptance. We figured she had a decent shot at UGA because they only consider English and Math for the ACT.
Was a tough decision between UGA and FSU. Really loved the FSU campus and vibe, but it’s harder to get to Tallahassee than Athens. And up here in the North, UGA has a better reputation. She will be attending UGA in the fall- go Dawgs!
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I think as a homeschooler, submitting scores is better than not submitting.
Can’t wait to hear where he ends up. St. Olaf is such a hidden gem.
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Go Dawgs! I’ve prohibited D24 from buying me any “Georgia Mom” merchandise–but I’ll gladly wear some discreet “Georgia” and “G” paraphernalia! 
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Figured I’d post to help ppl in a similar situation to me.
Major: Physics
State: Rhode Island
GPA: 102 Weighted (Just outside top 4%)
1560 SAT (780 EBRW, 780 Math)
11 AP Courses (5 on 6 exams, 4 on one exam that I did not report)
ECs:
Authored a 9000 word historical research paper on the Space Race with 100+ footnotes and 15 sources. Applied to be published by The Concord Review
President of Computer Science Club: Taught AI and Competitive Programming to students
President of Debate Club: Mentored 50+ members and led debate team to multiple awards at the national and international level.
Vice President of Science Olympiad Team: Helped members learn certain study and build events, medaled in multiple events and helped team medal at regional and state tournaments
Online Tutor: self explanatory, ~75 hours or so
Robotics Team member: Did some work on AI identification system, but quit after sophomore year.
Skateboarder of 2 years
Awards:
6 model UN awards across regional, national, and international levels
National Merit Semifinalist (Was declared a scholar a couple of weeks ago)
USACO Silver
3 Science Olympiad Medals at regional and state levels
AP Scholar with Distinction
Results:
Safety:
Rutgers (EA) - Accepted with Honors Program, no merit
Purdue (EA) - Accepted with Honors College, no merit
UMD College Park (EA) - Accepted with FIRE program, no merit
Match:
Northeastern (EA) - Deferred, Waitlisted
UIUC (Astrophysics, EA) - Accepted
Reaches:
Georgia Tech (EA) - Rejected
U-Michigan (EA) - Deferred, Waitlisted
UT Austin (Priority) - Accepted
Cornell (RD) - Rejected
CMU (RD) - Waitlisted
Johns Hopkins (RD) - Rejected
Northwestern (RD) - Rejected
Princeton (RD) - Rejected
UChicago (RD) - Waitlisted
UPenn (RD) - Rejected
Enrolling: UT Austin
Thoughts and Advice:
Honestly, I was kind of disappointing by my results. Georgia Tech was my top choice and I thought I would get deferred but oh well. Also didn’t get any merit from my safeties (although I did get honors, so that was nice). UT Austin was a very welcome acceptance because my family didn’t want to shell out 80k per year and it was the only other reach school on my list which was in the 60k range. I think the reason I got rejected from so many of my reach schools was 1) my GPA and 2) my activities description. My GPA was pretty low compared to previous accepted students at my school; I was hoping that my ECs and essays would have made up for it, but I should have known better. The activities description is also super important. Looking back at them, my activities description for my ECs were pretty weak and I could have written them much more nicely. UT Austin highly recommended a college resume, so I made a resume with much better descriptions and sent it only to UT. I’m pretty sure it was the singular reason why I got in.
Overall, I’m pretty happy with my UT acceptance, and am looking forward to this new stage of my life. Hook 'em! 
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Of all the colleges you listed, I think Texas offers the best combination of quality academics and quality of life. I bet you’ll love Austin. It’s probably my favorite college “town.”
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Everyone’s stats look so impressive! Mine are closer to average (I think), so I hope I can help others in a similar situation.
Mexican-Filipina-American attending California (Bay Area) public school
Not first gen and didn’t apply for need-based financial aid
Major: Biology
ACADEMIC
Unweighted GPA: 4.00 / Weighted GPA: 4.29 (7 APs in total)
Senior year: 7 classes w/ 4 APs
ELC (top 9% CA HS): Yes
AP courses/exams: AP Lang (3), AP Bio (4), APUSH (5)
NO SAT/ACT
EXTRACURRICULARS:
- NIH NIDDK STEP-UP Program (paid summer internship at UCSF-probably the best thing I’ve done)
- XC (4 year) and Track (3 years) Captain
- School newspaper (a measly student reporter - this was for only a semester)
- School community-building workshop (1 day long haha)
- The Bay Foundation (restoration events/essentially picking weeds)
Essays:
Regarding UC PIQs, one was on being XC captain and leading team to win championships for the first time in school history, 2nd on public speaking skills, and last two on my summer internship but from different angles (one about the actual science/the other about the lessons I learned).
Common app was on my internship + passion for scientific research
ACCEPTANCES (I’m between UCSC and UCM):
- UC Santa Cruz (banana slugs unite)
- UC Merced (Accepted w/ Chancellor’s Scholars Award!)
- UC Riverside
Waitlist:
- UC Santa Barbara (chance of getting off waitlist is pretty high!)
- UC San Diego (dream school!)
- UC Irvine
- UC Berkeley
- UChicago (Regular Decision)
Rejections:
- UC Davis
- UCLA
- Johns Hopkins (Regular Decision)
- Stanford
tl;dr my personality is the one UCSF internship I did last summer
As a Bio major, I feel like I’m competing with all the pre-med kids even though I want to go the research route with grad school 
Advice:
- Internships are generally better than summer college courses not just for college admissions but for your entire life (just take AP classes during the school year)
- Waitlists aren’t rejections! Definitely don’t give up hope, but in the meantime you should choose a school to commit to and plan as if you’re going to end up going there. Get excited about that school and visit it!
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How does S23 like Bowdoin?
S24 just accepted to the same NESCAC schools, waitlisted Dartmouth.
Humanities/Test optional 1400 SAT super score).
S24 is trying to decide between Bowdoin and Colby.
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Why do you feel that you chance of getting off of the waitlist is pretty high?
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Hoping to help any internationals needing full aid like me. This process is a really tough one but it’s doable.
Demographics
international student
Type of high school : Private School, got a full scholarship to attend( transfered from a public school for the gifted due to insecurity)
Gender/Race/Ethnicity: Male, African, Black
Intended Major(s)
Computer Science
GPA, Rank, and Test Scores
- Unweighted HS GPA: 5.0/5.0
- Weighted HS GPA: n/a
- Class Rank: 1/26
- ACT/SAT Scores: 1530 (750ERW, 780 Math)
- 6As 2Bs and 1C in my West African exams
- 5A*s and 3As IGCSE
Coursework
- N/A
Awards
Aduvie Regional Maths Gold Medal
Bronze Honors in the 2023 International Youth Math Challenge(IYMC)
Honor Society Member
Best JAMB, IGCSE, and SAT results in the History of the School
Valedictorian(Highest Overall Cumulative score in my school’s History with a score of 97.3/100)
Student of the month 10 times
Star reader 13 times
Honor roll every single time
Extracurriculars
*organized bake sales and charity balls, raising over 1 million naira to fund 20 students’ education and support local orphanages.
Interned at T-Greater Computer Services where I mastered deadlines, client relations, and computer firm operation services while boosting research and tech expertise. 3-time Employee of the Month!
Assistant Head of Student Council, managed a cabinet of 20, events and meetings. Was in charge of stopping students from bringing contraband
Securing a full scholarship to Qubit by Qubit’s Introduction to Quantum Computing Course by researchers at MIT and Stanford where we learned about quantum computing and simulating qubits, circuits, and superpositions using Python and Cirq. then acing the course’s practical applications with a current 100% grade demonstrated my potential to excel in this field
The Captain and Winger of my school’s team, I assisted our coach in training over 60 students. We played inter-house and school competitions where we won Gold and Silver medals.
President of Coding Club
Head Delegate of Ukraine/Ass. Head of Protocol at School MUN
Developed a blog about emerging technology, aiming to demystify complex concepts like AI and inspire people to shape our technologically driven world.
President of STEM/JETS club
I won various dance competitions and helped teach people how to dance, was a source of entertainment to my classmates.*
Essays/LORs/Other
Average essay. ( Wrote how my love for computer science started and how it affects my life. (linked it to how I was trying to save the Krabby Patty formula while watching TV by trying to open the TV and enter SpongeBob’s world but instead finding a world of motherboards and wires ) had some average and above-average supplementals though
I’m not sure how i’d grade my recs
Cost Constraints / Budget
- I’ll need a full ride, maybe highest EFC of 1000$*
Schools
I had to apply to top schools as they are more likely to meet my full-needs. ( I ended up applying to 38 schools)
Note: Background made it difficult to have access to a lot of competitions and extracurriculars
RESULTS
Accepted
Fisk (full ride presidential scholarship)
University of Southern Mississippi( Full ride honors presidential scholarship)
Jackson State(but no scholarship)
Rejected
Brown,
UPenn,
Columbia,
Yale,
Harvard,
Princeton),
MIT,
Tufts,
Rochester,
Amherst,
Richmond,
Bowdoin,
Bates,
Umiami,
Williams,
Wesleyan,
F&M,
Carleton,
Trinity University,
Swarthmore,
Hamilton,
Skidmore,
Northwestern,
Denison,
W&L,
Vassar,
Vanderbilt,
Pomona,
Duke
Stanford
Waitlisted
Kenyon
Colby
Minerva
Enrolling
I’m trying to choose between Fisk and University of Southern Mississippi. Which one gives better graduate and career outcomes and opportunities overall
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S23 is very happy at Bowdoin and his choice. Education and professors are top notch. S23 is more focused on STEM type classes although also taking humanities. We had not focused on the Amtrak train which has a stop in walking distance to Bowdoin which is very useful for us. Gym at Colby is super impressive but that wasn’t important in S23 decision. Good luck with the decision! Don’t think you can go wrong.
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UW Aerospace is a top-notch program fwiw – named after Boeing!
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Unless things have changed, UW doesn’t admit direct outside of CS and students would need to choose their Top 5 majors and go through a competitive process post freshman year. If this still holds then I would think hard before committing to UW.
Here are the results for my DS24;
White/Asian/Mexican
Major: Aerospace (where available), Mechanical Engineering or Physics
GPA: 4.0 Unweighted (All A+ on his transcript)
SAT: 1570 (800 math) taken during sophomore year
Rank: 1/300
AP classes thru junior year: AP US History, AP World History, AP Calc. AB, AP Calc BC, AP Physics 1, AP Physics C: Mechanics, AP Chemistry & AP Lang. Earned a 5 for all.
Senior year: Dual enrollment MV Calc, Linear Algebra & English. Rest were band, jazz, AP Comp. Sci and a physics internship. First semester grades all A+
ECS:
SSP (Astrophysics)
Music took the bulk of his time:
Marching Band - soloist and section leader
Jazz Band - soloist and section leader
3 x all state band and 4 time regional band (1st chair)
Math Team Co-captain and President
Middle School Math Team coach
Class Officer
Model UN (VP)
Authored research proposal to fly his experiment on a NASA Rb-6 balloon (eventually accepted and flown)
Lots of volunteer work - mostly with music and STEM programs.
Awards:
NMF and NM Hispanic Recognition
USAPhO Semifinalist
4 x AIME qualifier (USAMO index of 205)
International Geography Championships (top 10)
Misc. School awards
Results:
Early Action:
U of Alabama Huntsville -Accepted
CU Boulder - Accepted with merit
UMass Amherst - Accepted with merit and Honors
Purdue - Accepted with Honors
GT - Accepted
Harvard - Deferred
Regular:
Northeastern - Waitlisted
BU - Accepted with merit
RPI - Accepted with merit
MIT - Rejected
Caltech - Rejected
Yale - Rejected
Harvard - Waitlisted
Princeton- Waitlisted
Cornell - Waitlisted
He hasn’t decided on where he will be attending but he has narrowed it down to BU, Purdue and GT. He was really disappointed with his reaches but was expecting them. So many kids in his grade got accepted to the Ivy League and other top schools and that stung a bit for him but he has great choices and he will be fine!
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Demographics: US domestic (MA), competitive public high school, Asian/white, diagnosed w/ combined type ADHD, LGBTQ+ gender non-conforming (assigned female at birth). Full pay.
Intended Major(s): Applied for education, psychology, and/or public policy depending on the school.
SAT: 1580 (790R 790M)
UW/W GPA and Rank: 3.98 UW, 4.49 W (all As/A+s except for A- in AP Physics 1 junior year and B- in dual enrollment multivariable calculus first semester of junior year; dual enrollment does not factor into my school’s GPA calculations). School does not rank.
** Coursework:**
- Sophomore year: AP Calculus BC (5 overall & in AB subscore)
- Junior year: AP Physics 1 (5), AP Spanish (5); self-studied AP English Lang (5), AP US Gov (5), & AP Psych (4; intending to retake). Took an extra seminar on Diversity in Children’s Literature that appears on my transcript (program through school that allows teachers to teach special interest classes after school).
- Senior year: AP Physics C (both E&M and mechanics), AP Biology, AP Statistics, Latin 4H2 (essentially AP Latin); intending to self-study AP English Lit and retake AP Psych.
My school does not offer APs in humanities besides foreign languages (French, Spanish, Chinese). First quarter grades are all A+s except for an A in Latin and a B in Physics C.
Awards:
- 4x Regional Gold Key - Scholastic Art & Writing Awards
- Excellence in World Languages Award (schoolwide; from MA Foreign Language Association)
- MA Foreign Language Association schoolwide award for Spanish (received junior year but normally presented to a senior)
- William & Mary book award (I know this is relatively small potatoes)
- Winner of school poetry contest
- Summa cum laude (Gold medal) - National Latin Exam x4
- Taekwondo 1st degree black belt, but haven’t participated in TKD since I began high school
- Award from state government organization for LGBTQ+ advocacy
- 2Volunteer Presidential Service Award - Young Adult Gold
- AP Scholar w/ Distinction
- National Merit Semifinalist → Finalist → Scholar
Extracurriculars:
- Gender & Sexuality Alliance (vice president sophomore year, president since junior year)
- National Charity League
- State program for LGBTQ student leaders (facilitate student meetings, help with professional development for staff, serve on state education commissions, etc)
- Attended the Kenyon Review Young Writers Workshop the summer before my junior year; attended Sewanee Young Writers Conference the summer before my senior year
- Fellowship at local LGBTQ+ youth activism nonprofit; perform administrative and volunteer support tasks
- Administrative lead for another youth activism nonprofit
- Poetry editor for youth literary magazine
- Contributor of one Amazon-published poetry anthology and editor/contributor of another
- Three years working as a lifeguard/camp counselor in the summer
- Piano for 11 years
- Dance for 9 years, member of Senior Company (6.5 hrs/week)
- National Honor Society
- Literature lead for school creative arts magazine
Results (minus KCL because they took forever):
Safeties:
- Clark University (accepted EA + $30k/yr)
- UMass Amherst (accepted EA + honors + $2k/yr)
- Wheaton College in MA (accepted EA + honors + $45k/yr)
Targets:
- Kenyon (accepted RD + KEEP scholar + $40k/yr)
- Mount Holyoke (accepted RD + trustees scholarship (full tuition) (!!))
- URochester (accepted RD + GRADE fifth year masters + $21k/yr)
- St. Andrews (accepted)
Reaches:
- Amherst (waitlisted RD)
- Brown (deferred ED → rejected; this one stung)
- Cambridge (accepted (!!))
- Cornell (waitlisted RD)
- Harvard (accepted RD (!!))
- Haverford (accepted RD)
- Northeastern (deferred EA → waitlisted)
- Northwestern (accepted RD)
- Princeton (rejected RD)
- Swarthmore (waitlisted RD)
- Smith (accepted + STRIDE scholars + 22.5k/yr)
- Stanford (rejected RD)
- Tufts (accepted RD)
- UChicago (EA deferred → rejected)
- UCL (accepted)
- UPenn (accepted RD (!!))
- Vanderbilt (accepted RD + Cornelius Vanderbilt scholarship (full tuition) (!!))
- Vassar (accepted RD)
- WashU (accepted RD + Ervin Scholars (full tuition) (!!))
- Wellesley (accepted RD)
- Wesleyan (accepted RD)
- Yale (rejected RD)
Waiting:
- KCL still
Essays/LORs/other: I did a lot of research into each school and referenced specific classes or clubs in all of my supplements that I could, so I’m hoping that will count for me. I also submitted a resumé to the schools which accepted it. My supplements were all a solid 7-8 out of 10.
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LORs: one from my Latin teacher (9/10), one from my freshman/junior year English teacher (9/10). I don’t really know how to rate them because obviously I haven’t seen them, but my Latin teacher said she wrote “the best letter she could possibly write” and the English teacher is someone I have a fairly close relationship with. Both have taught me for multiple years and know me as a person as well as a student.
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I also submitted two extra LORs to schools that would take them: one from my middle school GSA advisor who’s known me since seventh grade and is still a mentor to me/someone who I talk to often, and one from the co-founder of the nonprofit I work with. I haven’t seen these either but I would probably guess they’re an 8/10 and a 7/10 respectively.
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CommonApp essay: 8/10. I wrote about how when I was in middle school I wanted to take my principal’s job because he wasn’t doing a good job handling homophobia at school, then connected it to a broader theme of believing that if something can be better, it should be (and including anecdotes from my summer job and nonprofit fellowship). My English teacher read it over and said she really liked it/my voice was very strong in it so take that as you will.
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Interviews - I interviewed at Clark (student), URochester (student), Wheaton (AO), Haverford (alum), Smith (alum), Mount Holyoke (student), Vassar (alum), Yale (alum), Princeton (alum), Harvard (alum), Cambridge (current professors), and WashU for Ervin but not for the general school.
Not sure yet where I’ll commit, but these are my results!
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Reason is in their CDS. See also screenshot below. common.data.set.2023.24.pdf - Google Drive
If you were my kid, I’d be encouraging you to consider attending Fisk for a few reasons:
- it’s in Nashville. This means easier to get to an airport, which helps at winter break & end of the school year.
- it’s a smaller school, so that will mean, honestly, less competition for getting access to professors. it’ll also mean your professors will get to know you a lot more and fewer students in each class…more one on one time with professors will help if you decide to pursue graduate school.
- Fisk has a lot of special programs to encourage their students of color in STEM areas. There’s a Masters-to-PhD bridge program with Vanderbilt University, for example.
- Nashville is a thriving metro area with a lot of fun stuff to do. Also good opportunities for internships.
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Here is UW’s page with placement data for the various majors: Placement data | UW College of Engineering
@chuckml97 if UW aero is a top choice for your S24 (not clear from your post), he should look over the placement process and data, and consider whether he’s open to a non-aero major at UW, if he isn’t placed into aero by the process.
I don’t wish to get this thread off topic, just wanted to be sure the poster had relevant data (since the placement process had been mentioned).
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