As far as picking up and moving goes, as disruptive as it can be, housing and office space are the least f the issues. The idea of food excess and waste was brought up. But if the Central Valley irrigation sources run dry it will impact ALL of the lettuce not just a fraction. Many crops (unlike salad greens) require significant investment in orchard stock (money and time) for production . . . nuts, fruit trees, vinyards, hops, olives, etc. Those are place bound investments and farmers and orchardists stand to sustain significant losses (not to be easily replaced) if irrigation water is curtailed too sharply. They may have crop loss insurance but that won’t help the consumer at all.
I have family members who have worked in the field of desalination. The regulations that prevent putting the byproduct (brine) back into the ocean are significant, as it would contribute to the cascade of biological changes described above. They are looking at other processes, going deeper into the ocean and getting pockets of fresh water (as I understand it) that when processed has a byproduct of natural gas. Please dont ask me to explain further as it is over my head, but suffice it to say there are a lot of rules and regulations that have to be addressed in the world of desalination. Maybe looking further into recycling water and catching rain water, even when there is less rain, is advisable simultaneously.
Another process is building out ccoasts with landfill. San Francisco has (though its probably pretty unstable in an earthquake) and we just returned from a trip where this had been done on one of the islands, adding significant real estate and construction.
Understand the frustration and annoyance here, especially when one continuously answers a question with another question.
Desalinization also costs energy.
We will definitely lose entire countries http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/sinking-states-climate-change-and-the-pacific/ Nobody has mentioned the disease perils as well. As Bay’s army of construction workers builds out “NEW New York,” they will be plagued by Dengue Fever, Malaria, Chikungunya Virus and a variety of other tropical diseases that will find a new home in the warm North. The army better use a lot of concrete and steel as termites will thrive.
Longshot but I gotta ask: Anybody aware of a saltwater-drinking species of mammal whose genetics we could splice with ours to make these pesky desalinization issues moot?
Retracting #84. Probably just easier to move to Idaho.
no, moop. Move to North Dakota. Better hook for college admissions coming from North Dakota.
83 - How about a marsupial? The Tammar wallaby (South Australia and Western Australia) can process seawater.
Technology evolves quickly. Smartphones didn’t exist 10 years ago. In 50 years, there will probably be vaccines/treatments for those bugs.
I hear the derision in comments like this, but from my perspective, the idea does not sound particularly challenging. CA’s population grew from 2 million in 1900, to 10 million in 1950, to 38 million in 2017, so obviously we managed to nicely accommodate the growth, movement and settling of 35 million people over 100 years. Unless the idea is that the change is going to be catastrophic, which is not at all clear to me, I don’t see moving millions of people to inland areas to be the huge ordeal some are implying.
Our Russian friend commented that global warming will help Russia. They will be able to farm the vast Siberia while US heartland turns brown. If global warming is accompanied by appropriate rain fall, the net effect may not be disastrous.
*2015, not 2017 (typo)
Moving millions, building or improving infrastructure, housing, offices, factories, you name it, is a HUGE ordeal, if people can even be incentivized to do so. Are you just messing with posters?
The US (and Canada, Russia) have low population densities. If people have to concentrate inland because of flooded coastal areas, maybe we’ll finally get high speed rail, ![]()
I’m sorry to have to be so blunt, but that’s because you appear to be ignorant about nearly everything surrounding this.
Consider it from the point of view of people who know what it takes to do things and how daunting it is to have to educate you on all the particulars involved with this. Entire books wouldn’t be enough.
I laud you on your open-mindedness, but at the same time I am observing that you have a full raft of denier talking points at the ready.
Climate change alarmists have been criticized (rightly) for relatively unsupported predictions of extreme weather events, but, at the same time, the average person is simply unable to comprehend what the substantial impact of even moderate changes will be.
But I’m not the average person. I do science for a living. And I am rankled by the condescension of these alarmist “experts” talking down to me.
Doesn’t seem like a rational reason to attack climate change. Attack the alarmists, if, indeed, you feel you are able to separate them out from plausible effects. And, I think you would also have to acknowledge the possibility that some of the more dramatic scenarios could occur.
Net it out for me then, JustOneDad. In 100 years, will NYC be underwater, its population dead, and the rest of us starving to death? Just give me your educated guess.
Maybe here is a reason to encourage the deniers to keep spreading the word that there is no big deal, no reason to devise a national plan or anticipate the massive costs. Those of us on the coast are going to need deniers who see our moving as a buying opportunity so we (or children and grandchildren) can cash in while we still have value in our property.
I like the optimism of hey-we-can-solve-anything, but I fear that is a short-sighted attitude. That we will be able to accommodate the changes in our lifetimes and then we’re gone and it’s not our problem. Fifty years from now our kids and grandkids will be affected but most of us won’t be around to see it play out…not to mention what becomes of great-grandchildren and beyond.
We need to think long long term and encourage our leaders to do so as well.
i acknowledge possibility, not certainty. Just like I acknowledge the possibility of dying in a nuclear war w Iran. But I don’t turn my life upside down over possibility and live in a bunker like those crazy doomsday survivalists.