<p>I agree with nj, it’s ridiculous to say it’s a waste to apply to a certain school. The only thing that’s close to being a waste is to pick something that you are not interested in. For example, you have great credentials and intelligence and picked Wharton, but you are not interested in business. Now that’s a waste. </p>
<p>It’s like saying…you have lots of money but chose not to spend it on healthy apples because they are cheap…rather spent it on a (fill in the blank) car because it’s expensive, but you don’t drive. </p>
<p>Nursing is so underrated. People are just not aware how important it is to have nurses vs. to have one more business person. I’m not saying business is not important, but nursing definitely underrated.</p>
<p>nj<em>azn</em>premed: philosophy is a wasted degree?</p>
<p>Philosophy and History majors have the highest rate of acceptance into Medical and Law schools, and philosophy majors have one of the best job-success rates (meaning, getting a job) immediately following college than almost any other field of study.</p>
<p>But yeah, it’s totally a “waste.”</p>
<p>Even if it was a “waste,” shouldn’t people study what they’re interested in?</p>
<p>If you love Penn and are dead-set on attending, apply to CAS for good chances. If you aren’t so keen on Penn, roll the dice and apply to Wharton. Wharton is about fit, so the why penn essay will be crucial. They will get a lot of apps from Asians in CA so you need to work hard to show that you have the “wharton mentality”</p>
<p>“Philosophy and History majors have the highest rate of acceptance into Medical and Law schools, and philosophy majors have one of the best job-success rates (meaning, getting a job) immediately following college than almost any other field of study.”</p>
<p>I’d like valid links to support these claims.</p>
<p>From <a href=“http://www”>www</a>. clemson.edu/caah/philosophy/information/premed
“Philosophy is an unusual choice for a pre-med major, to be sure. The Medical School Admissions Requirements (MSAR) book for 2000-2001 shows that only 0.5% of medical school applicants were Philosophy Majors in 1998. However, 50.2% of these were accepted, which is the second highest rate (just behind History at 52.7% - Biology majors were a mere 39.9%). In the previous year, the acceptance rate for Philosophy majors was the highest of all at 53%!”</p>
<p>Eat your words, my little honeybun.</p>
<p>Even if this wasn’t true, don’t you have any respect for purely intellectual fields, like English, languages, etc? You ignored this question last time, and I’d like you to answer it.</p>
<p>Do you have any more recent data? And, to answer your question, I have very little respect for what you have dubbed “purely intellectual fields”…they’re wasted degrees in my opinion. Even the philosophy major who matriculates into a med school must still take science classes to do so…the rest of the curriculum is pretty worthless and, in essence, the easy way out of the work associated with a Biology/Chemistry/etc major. For those who failed to make medical school and were philosophy/history majors, their degree wouldn’t exactly help when it came to finding a job/career path.</p>
<p>From what I learned at gov school, the reason some say that philosophy major, art major, history major, or the like have higher acceptance rate is that for those people who have these majors, they have to work extra hard to complete the required courses for med school. Therefore, the admissions of med school know that they have the capability of managing more than just the premed courses. Also, many who apply for med school are bio or science majors, therefore, those who are majored in something else have an edge. It’s basically like college admissions, if you are an art major, completed all the courses for med school, and did well on MCAT, you definitely have a better chance of getting in than a person who have everything you have except for the art major. </p>
<p>Aside from that…muerto…it seems that you contradicted yourself to what you said about not wasting it on SEAS…</p>
<p>I said not to waste it on SEAS because it’s not nearly as competitive/prestigious/whatever you want to call it and the OP has fantastic stats, not because engineering is a waste of time.</p>
<p>On the contrary, I see as much value in engineering as I do in every other field.</p>
<p>Also, nj<em>azn</em>premed, your lack of respect for the humanities is disturbing. I hope for your sake (and Penn’s) that you at least have an intellectual curiosity in the arts, English, philosophy, et al., even if you don’t necessarily respect people studying it full time.</p>
<p>The value in each of those fields is generally obvious to even casual observers; there’s more to life than becoming a doctor. The humanities help us tease that out. Haven’t you ever wondered about existence on a philosophical level? Sure, chemistry and bio can tell you basically how your brain works, but it can’t tell you why.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope you eventually come to appreciate things outside of your current myopia.</p>
<p>if its wharton, honestly yea who the **** knows ive known kids who i wud say not elligble and got in with like 1900 sats and lack of ec’s and kids with 2350 get rejected, its nuts. i think they try to find kids they see as being successfull, not necessarily the most qualified</p>
<p>what are my chances of being admitted to penn CAS? currently i have a 4.0 at Tulane University
extracurriculars: active member of Hillel, college republicans, and in AKPsi business fraternity
SAT scores: 1950/2400</p>