@GingerLand that’s my feeling too. He didn’t want to apply to 14+ schools, 8 seemed like more than enough. Plus it gets expensive and time consuming.
But if he falls in the cracks where everyone assumes he’s going somewhere else, then I get why people apply to a huge number of schools.
Thankfully he has come around to the idea of our state flagship school because other than that, there aren’t many good choices for his major in state here.
@GingerLand. Students can go to many out of state public schools, that cost less anyway. That was the solution for us. Look at Arizona State, Oregon State, Iowa State, U of Nebraska, U of Utah. In Utah you can get in state tuition after one year, too. Its the go to school for many Coloradans who cannot afford CU Boulder. Its actually cheaper to go OOS for many Colorado students.
Its a good idea to look at big public schools there is plenty of space, private schools will eventually lose rank, sooner or later, as they cannot offer what large publics can offer in the way of labs etc.
For engineering, larger public programs beat smaller privates for both curriculum and labs.
Case Western is a very small school, in a somewhat dangerous city, why sweat it, I would not think twice if you get a reject, or waitlist, it was not meant to be. With that, My kid got in when it was easier, back in 2013. I believe he would have been fine at a big public school and sent kid number two to a public school. Its got advantages in many ways to be a socially bigger place with more labs if you want lab sciences. .
@GingerLand It has to do with overcrowded majors, why kids are waitlisted. The two oversubscribed majors at CWRU are computer science and BME. If all the kids put those majors, thats why they are waitlisted. Also CWRU offers ED1, ED2, and EA. Those kids take ALL OF THE SLOTS in computer science. Computer science is full by Regular decision time at CWRU. Thats also true of GaTech by the way and many other schools where computer science is too crowded.
@Coloradomama Apparently Psych was full too, I guess?
@drewsmom17 I hear you. large public unis were never something my daughter wanted. I made her apply to one and so she may have somewhere to go next year (that she’ll hate). She loved Case. We have family nearby. They have a good psych department and dance. You don’t find that everywhere. We knew to show interest and did. Your kid gets good grades, wins competitions, places top 1% on SAT and you think it will be easy for them to find a place - you allow yourself to think scholarship money. And instead we fall short of the ivies, get yield protection from places like Case, and rejected from small liberal arts places that have filld half their slots in ED and are trying to change their image (and recruit anyone else).
With respect to yield protection at CWRU, it must be difficult to differentiate between sincere applicants who genuinely want to attend the school, and others, whose parents might avow, “Screw 'em. We’ve already got some great offers.”
@GingerLand - I feel you. Please don’t give up hope on Case. Continue to show intetest. Have your daughter email her local admissions director and mention the things above. Talk about the SPECIFIC things you love and need at Case. Have her counselor send in updated grades. Any new awards or positive things? Have your school counselor talk to them or send an email explaining her sadness of getting waitlisted. Because their thought is if you truly wanted it, you would have ED. I don’t agree with ED, It sadly has taken over college admissions, forced kids into one option, and then it is hard for colleges after ED to truly distinguish who will come with the package they offer. With her stats, if you tell them, Case is my number 1, I think she will be offered a spot before May 1st. Good luck!
@gingerland - I agree with @NewSR1. Psych is also a major that many pre-meds apply under.
@GingerLand, I agree not to give up on Case…my daughter recently graduated with double majors in Psych and Cognitive Science. She loved her time there, got great opportunities for research and ultimately landed an RA position at UPenn and is now off to a top PhD program in clinical psychology. Stay on the waitlist and express your interest in attending.
@bopper @DSOF20192023 2018-19 Common Data Set Page 6 Section C2-3 says no one was accepted from the waitlist last year. CWRU totally over-enrolled last year and had to scramble for housing. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aps1m-yYgAEJ:https://case.edu/ir/sites/case.edu.ir/files/2018-09/CDS%25202018-2019.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
@CF thanks, that could be big anomaly in 2017 when many decided to go some where else and Case has to dig deep into waitlist.
2017-2018
25,380 applied
8,405 admitted (33% acceptance rate, including ED,EA,RD) (8,405/25,380)
1,308 enrolled(15% yield rate) (1,308/8,405)
7,178 offered waitlist (28% of total applicants) but only 4,252 decided to be in waitlist
586 joined from waitlist (14% acceptance) (586/4,252)
45% of class of 2021 is from waitlist (586/1,308)
2018-2019
26,642 total applied
7,794 admitted (29.2% acceptance rate) (26,642/7,794 )
1,394 enrolled (17.8% Yield) (1,394/7,794)
from 2017 to 2018,
number of applicants increased but offers reduced
yield rate went up by 3% in 2018, but still only 17.8%
thanks @DSOF20192023 for sharing. This is great information.
Case sent a long email about the upcoming WL process. I am impressed with the thought and work they will be putting into it. Hopefully S19 will know all of his decisions soon so he can make an informed choice.
@drewsmom17 Could you share for future readers?
Sure, be happy to give back! I’ve received great info here.
The email states that they took a conservative as approach to admissions to ensure class size and housing options could be met.
Starting next week, they will send out waitlist status requests with financial package offers if you requested need based and completed the FAFSA and CSS. They will also indicate if you are eligible for any scholarships at that time. They will check in weekly and ask if you still want to be on the waitlist.
I assume this is to give a pretty accurate pic if being on the waitlist makes financial sense and also gives them a better chance of seeing who is likely to accept WL offers.
They are optimistic they will be able to offer spots and plan to start around April 14 through May.
The good thing about Case is that you get the same financial aid (need or merit) as you would have if you were accepted outright.
I was deferred in early action and currently on the waitlist for CW. But I received an email today that says my estimated financial aid is 20k a year for “university scholarship” IF I’m admitted. I’m a little confused why they would offer a scholarship if I’m still on the waitlist. Does this mean I’ll probably get off the WL?
same here…got a super generous ‘estimated’ grant. does everybody on the waitlist get this or is this a way to keep you interested?
S19 is in same boat (deferred EA, waitlist RD, received scholarship information IF admitted). I have no idea but my guess is that this is done to streamline the next steps … if someone is taken off the waitlist, they have all the information they need to make a decision and won’t have to wait another week (or more) to get the financial info they’d need to decide whether or not to attend. Again, I have no insight–just making an educated guess.
Got one for 20k (University Scholarship). Not sure what that entails, but best of luck to everyone!