Casey Anthony?

<p>I am surprised they announced an actual day, given the hyperbole over the verdict and her minimal sentence on the other charges.</p>

<p>hops_scout - do you think Casey should have been charged with any crime at all?</p>

<p>kleibo-- I think she would have pled out to a lesser manslaughter charge, personally.</p>

<p>I understand there was something in the offing before they found the remains of that poor child. The outrage was so intense, I think the prosecutors just got stuck in the currents and could not get out or see where they were headed anymore.</p>

<p>There are plenty of people who believe there was more than enough evidence to convict her - if not of murder one - then of one of the lesser included crimes. A little bit of a different makeup on the jury and we could have had a completely different result. </p>

<p>On Tuesday, the vote was 6 to 6 with regard to manslaughter. The guilty votes gave in. They chose to find the accident scenario a reasonable one. There are plenty of people who would have seen it as unreasonable and the only other conclusion would have been that Casey was responsible.</p>

<p>That’s interesting Cartera. I hadn’t heard that yet, and it doesn’t surprise me.</p>

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<p>And this is why I am glad that the government is held to the high standard of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>

<p>The media/public outcry was not the only reason to bring this case. There is only one person in the world to whom the evidence points. That person also did her very best to ensure that her daughter’s body decomposed to the point that the jury couldn’t find the “CSI evidence” they thought they needed. She had to be prosecuted.</p>

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<p>cartera45–do you have a source cite for that? Would you provide it? I’d like to read more.
I would have thought the jurors might keep those kind of details quite since it may turn people more angry at them or at least save it for their own book deal.</p>

<p>I heard it on the news but here is an article. </p>

<p>[Casey</a> Anthony juror says the jury wanted to find her guilty, but the evidence ‘wasn’t there’ - St. Petersburg Times](<a href=“http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article1179177.ece]Casey”>http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article1179177.ece)</p>

<p>great link. thanks</p>

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From the above link. There is lots more.</p>

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I don’t think Casey would have admitted any guilt and pled to a lesser charge. It just isn’t in her make-up. She is a consummate liar and her lies have always gotten her out of any jam. JMO</p>

<p>Here is a link to the Supreme Court of Florida jury instructions for manslughter. IMO the jurors who would not vote guilty without knowing whose care the child was in when she died followed that instruction. <a href=“http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/probin/sc07-2324_Report.pdf[/url]”>Opinions - Supreme Court;

<p>If the child died while in the care of another before Casey knew she was dead or missing, there is no offense. If the child died in the possession/care of another after Casey knew she was missing then there might be an offense. If the child died in Casey’s care there is only an offense if there was a highly elevated level of negligence involved. </p>

<p>As many of us know (unfortunately) a child can drown very quickly and kids do drown even when the parent is using some degree of care. So what evidence was there of any circumstances that would fit the jury instruction? None that I can see.</p>

<p>“By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.” I’d like to know why they changed their minds. I hope it wasn’t becuase there were holdouts on the other side. Why did the six change their minds. I mean two were going to vote for Murder 1 and then within a few hours, they are voting not to convict.???</p>

<p>That’s why it is called deliberation. It is not surprising that in a capital case there is not a unanimous decision on the first vote. Since all 12 must agree to convict, it is not surprising that votes change on any jury panel. Go watch 12 Angry Men.</p>

<p>Aside from Caylee’s actual death, I think reporting her missing is negligence (where Casey is guilty) and her cover-up for 6 months till she was decomposed beyond recognition was both Casey and her dad. He was, after all, a police officier and he might know those kinds of details about how long it takes. And geez, why didn’t the jury know about the nasty smell in the car? Okay, so they only had circumstantial evidence about many details, by how did she get from the Anthony’s pool?</p>

<p>07dad - I know what it’s called and I’ve seen 12 angry men. I’m mearly stating I’d like to know why they changed their minds. What the deliberation was about. Hopefully that will come out in the next few days or so.</p>

<p>Here is a link to the judge’s instructions to the jury:</p>

<p>[Jury</a> Instructions Casey Anthony](<a href=“http://www.scribd.com/doc/59297005/Jury-Instructions-Casey-Anthony]Jury”>http://www.scribd.com/doc/59297005/Jury-Instructions-Casey-Anthony)</p>

<p>With jurors beginning to describe their deliberations, this may be a helpful reference point.</p>

<p>lima…agree with negligence for sure…re the car smell…i think it was about 6 people smelled it and about 6 didnt…i think the canned air testimony was bizarre…i have a dead mouse in my wall right now, and i can smell it</p>

<p>The manslaught instruction is on pages 7 and 8. I’d love to hear any arguments about evidence introduced at trial that would allow an affirmative finding of manslaughter under those instructions.</p>