Chance an ambitious lower GPA junior for Business [CA resident, 3.61 GPA, 1460 SAT]

There is a maximum number of years in each subject that can be counted for bonus rigor. It can be helpful to look at the selection criteria posted on their web site.

Required and recommended years of each subject are given under “course requirements.” No bonus is given for additional years of a subject above the “recommended” level.

Also note the preface (emphasis mine):

Our selection process considers many factors for admission in an objective format in which applicants compete against other applicants within the same major.

That is, the process is non-holistic (it uses a formula), and each major has a separate applicant pool. A student with a very high GPA may be rejected if they apply to a highly competitive major, while a student with a relatively low GPA may be admitted if they apply to a less competitive major.

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Which of the math classes you listed are you taking senior year?

What is your approximate class rank? (approximate it the best you can if your school doesn’t publish it)

You will be direct admit to IU as long as your wGPA is printed on your transcript and you only attended one HS…is that the case for you? If so, then I agree with others that you should only apply to schools would likely attend over Kelley…that includes schools that don’t have business/you would study econ.

Calculate your UC GPAs here: GPA Calculator for the University of California – RogerHub

And CSUs here: GPA Calculator | CSU

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yeah I’m looking at Maia. I did Alg 1 7th and Geo 8th, plus 10 semesters in HS so I think I’m good for math. If they count it, I think that should be 7 years. Thanks.

I’m doing AP Stats, and 2 Financial Math classes (1 sem each). I’m not very sure about rank, they’re very hush about it. Regarding Kelley, the weighted GPA is on my transcript and I have only attended one school. My school requires me to have 4 safeties aside from UCM, so I have to keep some schools, but you do have a good point. Also, my parents also want me to apply UIUC, UW Madison, and Purdue because they generally have better opportunities than IU if I change my major, and I did enjoy the schools when I visited them. Thanks for the UC/CSU GPA calcs.

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All of these and IU are flagship universities in their states. They all have a good variety of other majors if you change your mind. BUT IU is the only one with a well regarded and strong business school in Kelley.

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If you are not 100% sure of your major, you’re right that it’s a good idea to have some schools on the list that you would enjoy attending for some other major that you might choose.

In spring of junior year, my son was looking at business majors and I remember Kelley being one that he considered, too… but by the fall of senior year, he had changed his mind a few times and was applying to engineering majors :upside_down_face:

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I’m very sure personally, I’ve been set on business since mid-freshman year, but my parents are both from tech backgrounds, so they just want me to have other options.

I like IU and Kelley a lot but I wouldn’t say it’s the only good biz school. UIUC Gies and WSB have great placement for IB/consulting, high salaries, and solid rankings. I agree about Purdue Daniels not being the strongest, but it’s up-and-coming, hey just launched an IB academy.

That said, I believe UIUC, UW–Madison, and Purdue generally have more academic cultures and are stronger across other majors. Their SAT ranges reflect that academic edge:

  • UW–Madison: 1370–1490
  • UIUC: 1350–1510
  • Purdue: 1210–1470
  • IU: 1180–1390

TLDR: IU’s great, but others offer more flexibility and academic depth.

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Then apply to others if that is what you want to do. They are all fine flagship universities.

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Not to borrow trouble, but what happens if you actually are admitted to both Kelley and also, say, Purdue? Will your parents make you go to Purdue? Will you try to talk them into Kelley?

As an aside, I note Indiana is one of those states where basically it has a more STEM oriented flagship in Purdue, and then a more non-STEM flagship in Indiana. Which means Business is not the only area in which Indiana is at least as well-regarded, arguably sometimes more so, than Purdue.

I’m not always sure what parents will respond to, but I think this study of PhD feeders in different areas is interesting:

Indiana outranked Purdue in Anthro, Economics, Education, Languages, Poli Sci/Government, Psych, and Sociology, and Purdue outranked Indiana in Bio, Chem, CS, Engineering, and Physics (neither was ranked for English, History, or Math).

This is all very crude and there is a lot of self-selection involved. But point being I do not think there is a strong case for Purdue being better than Indiana across the board outside of Business.

Of course you don’t necessarily have to decide all this now. But it sounds to me like this is a potential issue you will need to hash out sooner or later.

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no Kelley’s over purdue. but UW Madison and UIUC might be above.

IU-Kelley is only auto admit if the weighted gpa is on the HS transcript, otherwise it moves to unlikely. Sorry if it has been answered and I missed it.

yes, this has been addressed earlier, but the weighted GPA is on my transcript.

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A couple of things.

  1. You can prune the list using IU as an assured choice. For example would you study econ at UC Santa Cruz instead?
  2. Some of the schools need very high UW GPA (like UCLA/Michigan) and some schools are very hard admit for OOS like UT Austin/UNC. Maybe you can instead add schools like Babson and Bentley which are known for business.
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  1. Realistically no, but it’s just checking a box to apply, so might as well keep my options open.
  2. I’m not a fan of Babson and Bentley as they’re quite small for my liking. Only reason I’m willing to go that small is for like Dartmouth or something of that caliber.

Well, that is one you can eliminate at least!

You also had Rutgers and Minnesota on your list. Not sure if you would actually choose those over Kelley either.

Then if it were me, I would suggest you could choose at most two out of Illinois, Wisconsin, and Washington, possibly just one.

No problem. Good Luck. I was just concerned about the time invested in writing essays for schools like UT Austin/UNC.

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As a California resident, you have some excellent schools in which to apply. I will not chance you but list admit rates and GPA data for some CSU’s and the UC’s. Once you calculate out your CSU, SLO and UC GPA’s you can compare to see where you stand.

Campus Business admin or Business Ads. major CSU Capped weighted GPA
Cal Poly SLO Projected 22% 4.04-4.25 SLO GPA
San Jose State Various Business majors and concentrations Depending upon concentration a CSU GPA of 2.5-3.5 would meet Impaction Thresholds
San Diego State Depending upon concentration 31-35% Average Campus CSU GPA overall 4.06
Cal Poly Pomona Various Majors Minimum 2.5 GPA needed to meet major threshold
Cal State Long Beach 31% Average CSU GPA 3.98
Campus Business admin or Business Ads. major Economics Overall UC GPA admit range (25th-75th percentile)
UC Berkeley 4% Business Admin HAAS 5% Weighted 4.31-4.65. Capped weighted 4.15-4.29. Weighted UW 3.89-4.00
UC Davis Admission by College: 39.8% Managerial Econ. (New Business major Fall 2025 available not data yet available) Admission by College: 37% for Economics Capped weighted 4.00-4.27. Unweighted 3.80-4.00
UC Irvine 11.2% Business Admin/22.9% Business Econ 34.5% Capped weighted 4.04-4.28. Unweighted 3.83-4.00
UCLA Admission by College: Business Economics 9% Admission by College: Economics 9% Weighted 4.38-4.73 Capped weighted 4.20-4.30. Unweighted 3.95-4.00
UC Merced Business Econ/Management 84% 81% Capped weighted 3.41-4.04
UC Riverside Pre Business Admin 76% 89% Capped weighted 3.68-4.13
UC San Diego Estimated 13% Business Econ Estimated 23% Economics Capped weighted 4.10-4.28. Unweighted 3.84-4.00
UC Santa Barbara Admission by College: 29% Economics/Accounting Admission by College: 29% for Economics (pre) Capped weighted 4.11-4.28. Average Campus Unweighted 3.90.
UC Santa Cruz 60% for Business Managment 67% Capped weighted 3.87-4.22

You can also see the average admitted UC Capped weighted GPA for your HS and UC campus here: Admissions by source school | University of California

Best of luck.

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Yes. However, I’m only doing Rutgers and Minnesota because my school counselor is making me have four safeties.

Thanks