Chance me GPA 4 SAT 1550

Chance Me / Match Me
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Guidelines

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Demographics

  • international student (Canadian)
  • State/Location of residency:

Gifted program , AP(Comp science, Bio, Chem,Physics,Cal)

  • Other special factors: (first generation to college, legacy, recruitable athlete, etc.)

Cost Constraints / Budget
(High school students: please get a budget from your parents and use the Net Price Calculators on the web sites of colleges of interest.)

Intended Major(s)
BS/MD, BS/DO, Health science, Biology, Neurology

GPA, Rank, and Test Scores

  • Unweighted HS GPA: 4 GPA (97%)
  • Weighted HS GPA: (must specify weighting system; note that weighted GPA from the high school is usually not informative, unless aligned with the recalculation used by a college of interest, such as CA, FL, SC public universities)
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  • ACT/SAT Scores: 1550

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College Coursework (Transfer Applicants)
(Include college courses taken while in high school if not included above.)

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Awards

Extracurriculars
||• Hospital Volunteer(80 Hours)|
|-Medical related Research
||• Medical Centre(80 Hours)|
||• Community Debate Gavel Club - President & Volunteer (100 Hours)|
||• Dance Choreography & Event Support (50 Hours)|
||• Jr. DECA Event - Activity Teacher & Logistics Manager (8 Hours)|
||• UCMAS - Teaching students abacus-based mathematics|

(Include leadership, summer activities, competitions, volunteering, and work experience)
Soccer school team
• Bio Mentor in school

• Top 10 Roleplay Award at DECA Regionals (2024)
• 8th Place in Creative Problem Solving - HOSA SLC Conference (2024)
• 5th Place at HOSA Canada Fall Leadership Conference (2023)
• DECA Regional & Provincial Qualifier (2023)
• Earned a Black Belt in Taekwondo (2022)
• Winner - Citi Swim Competitive Swimming (2021)
• Winner - Hiphop Dance Group (2021)
• CPR Certified

Essays/LORs/Other
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Schools
(List of colleges by your initial chance estimate; designate if applying ED/EA/RD; if unsure, leave them unclassified)

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There is a lot of important information missing in your post.

And which schools do you want to be chanced for? Your list is empty.

Tagging @WayOutWestMom to comment on BS-MD options for Canadians.

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The OP has already received a list of international-friendly BS/MD and BS/DO schools in this thread:

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/junior-looking-into-bs-md-chance-me/3678092/30

All combined BS/MD/DO program should be considered as very low probability for international students

BS/MD/DO programs will expect applicants to have high levels of community service in activities that help to relieve the physical & mental suffering of others. Service must be face-to-face, not office work, funding raising or tutoring. Activities like like soup kitchens, food pantries, Habitat for Humanity, homeless shelters, shelters for victims of domestic violence…

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OP- starting a new thread isn’t going to change the reality on the ground…

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I believe this is the OP’s first thread. They commented on another thread and received some answers to their question but have now started a new thread so as not to hijack the other. I’ve moved those posts to this thread now.

@BSMDMom2 I agree with @DadOfJerseyGirl that you will receive more valuable information if you complete the Chance Me template.

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I am looking to apply to BSMD/DO as international applicant. Can any one help with BSMD/DO programs those accept international students ?

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@BSMDMom2

BA/MD

Boston University
University of Rochester
Case Western University
Brown University
Howard University

However, be aware that international students are only very rarely accepted into BA/MD programs.

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How about BS/DO program ? What is the possibility and what is the difference from MD ?

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BS/DO programs that will consider international students:

NOVA Southeastern (Both undergrad and med school at the same university)
Lake Erie College of Medicine [LECOM]+ an associated undergrad **
Michigan State Univ COM (Canadians only)
Illinois Institute of Technology/ Chicago College of Osteopathic Medicine ***

Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine is professional degree that allows graduates who complete a ACGME accredited residency to become licensed physicians.

Osteopathic medicine is functionally equivalent to a MD degree, though DO grads are significantly more likely to match into primary care specialties (pediatrics, family medicine, general internal medicine), EM, neurology or pathology. There are some specialties that only very rarely match DOs–orthopedics, neurosurgery, dermatology, otolaryngology, plastic surgery, ophthalmology, interventional radiology, vascular surgery, cardiothoracic surgery, radiation oncology.

Osteopathic medical school teaches hands on manipulation techniques (“osteopathic manipulation”) which MD programs do not.

**LECOM has a list of associated undergrads. Some will accept international students; some will not. It’s up to the applicant to find and gain acceptance into one of LECOM’s partner schools while going thru the LECOM BA/DO admission process. .

***It’s unclear from the program’s website if Internationals are eligible for the BA/DO program. Both IIT and CCOM accept international students. You will need to contact the BA/DO program director at IIT and ask.

NOVA Southeastern has a notably high acceptance rate for its BA/DO program. It accepts about 300 student/year. Be aware, however, that the program has a very high cull rate and only about 50-60 BA/DO students eventually matriculate into medical school. No financial aid is available for international students.

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And IIRC, Nova Southeastern is THE most costly DO program in this country.

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@WayOutWestMom , Thank you so much for such a detailed information. This is so helpful.
I thought BS/DO matches to General Surgery also. Isnt the case ?

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They can…but as a high school junior, you can NOT predict what specialty you will match to for your residency as your medical school grades, Step scores, LOR, honors received, shelf exams, evals from elective rotations will impact what specialties you actually should be considering when applying for residency.

@WayOutWestMom will correct me if I’m wrong.

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As a DO you can match into absolutely any specialty, but matching into the most competitive ones presents an extra challenge that comes from DO stigma. So, if the goal is to be a dermatologist or a surgeon, then think twice before committing to a DO program. Otherwise, not a significant difference. They all become doctors, do the same job and get the same salary :-).

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Sample of two. My dermatologist is a DO. And so is one of my surgeons.

Just because you graduate from a MD program won’t guarantee you will match to a competitive residency. There is far more to it than the MD vs DO thing.

@WayOutWestMom

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80% of dermatologists are MDs. This specialty is highly competitive and it’s a reach for even top students from MD school. Being a DO makes it even harder but not impossible.

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Before the MD-DO residency merger in 2020. Osteopathic physicians had their own separate, protected set of residencies for DOs only. This meant that is was easier for DOs to match to competitive specialties like Derm or Neurosurgery since MDs were not allowed to apply to them. Likewise, DOs were not allowed to apply to MD-only residencies.

Now all residency programs are open at any med school grad, MD or DO. DOs are welcome to apply to all the formerly MD-only programs, but…they’ll be required/expected to the USMLE exams as well the COMLEX exams which are required to graduate from med school.

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DOs can match to general surgery. It’s just harder for them to do so, Largely because they get less exposure to surgery than MD students do. Most DO schools don’t have a home hospital where their students rotate thru. DO students are sent to local community hospitals for rotations, instead of academic hospitals. Community hospital preceptors are less likely to allow students to participate hands on during surgery than preceptors are an academic hospital. Academic (teaching) hospitals also then to have better resourced sim labs for student where a med student can learn to operate the DaVinci surgical robot, for example.

Also with a home hospital, med students get exposed to wider variety of surgical specialties/sub-specialties and can easily arrange elective rotations in things like orthopedics. vascular surgery, ENT, pediatric surgery. Not having a home hospital make it more difficult for a student to find a mentor in their preferred specialty, and have fewer options when it comes to explore the less common/more competitive specialties.

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@BSMDMom2

One thing that WILL impact your daughter’s chances for matching to general surgery will be her international status. Most residency programs do not sponsor visas. Those that do generally only sponsor J-1 visas.

Because top name and academic hospitals have plenty of applicants for their programs, they do not sponsor visas (which are costly to the hospital in terms of fees paid and legal work required). It’s the smaller, often rural, community hospitals that sponsor visas.

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Since the OP has now revealed they are Canadian residents, she needs to consider where her daughter will want to practice medicine for her career. Although DOs are allowed equal practice rights in Canada, there are some structural issues she will need to deal with if she wants to practice medicine in Canada. She will need to take the MCCQE exams and perform other qualifying activities if she want to enter CaRMS (the Canadian equivalent of the NRMP Match)–true regardless of whether she is MD or DO. But additionally as a DO, each province sets it own requirements for medical licensing which may require additional medical education or special supervision requirements for US educated osteopathic physicians.

In many countries, including Canada, osteopaths (which are different than an osteopathic physician) are medical practitioners who specialize in healing through physical manipulation techniques (like a chiropractor in the US) and massage therapy, They are not medical doctors and this often cause confusion both with Canadian medical licensing boards and patients.

Lastly US and Canadian medical residencies are not always equivalent. For example, in Canada, emergency medicine is 5 year long residency while in the US , it is 3 or 4 years long. There are differences in length of training in other medical specialties as well. Family medicine, internal medicine, general surgery and many competitive specialties have training length discrepancies. These length of training differences lead to US trained physicians having to undergo specialize evaluations or committing to additional residency training in Canada before they are allowed to receive a medical license in Canada.

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Thank you so much for providing very helpful insights. My daughter is looking for Nova Southwestern BS/DO program. What is the reason of a very cull rate and low matriculate into med school ?

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short answer–they over-accept then cut heavily because the med school simply doesn’t have the space for all accepted BS/DO students to matriculate.