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Based on several of your posts it seems like XelbMess is just wanting a pat on the back from CCers rather than actual frank, truthful advice. Not only that, you react overly defensive and take things personally. Hopefully you're not like this in interviews and can fake a personality as it won't get you far in medical school or even in life. This is especially ironic, considering the title of your post is "Chance me. I must know where I stand." You should rename it to "Chance Me. Please tell me what I tell myself." If you know so much, then why are you here? Go to SDN, where they apply talcum powder to your bottom before wearing your diaper to make you feel good about yourself.
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-Idiot. That's all I can say. You give me pathetic "Advice", and go on to say that there is basically no shot. Remember that this is HYPOTHETICAL? You are honestly the only person I've had a problem with when it came to forums like these and SDN. Out of ALL of the posters that have posted in this thread, you are the only one that has acted out in such an unprofessional and childish manner. I take advice here and on SDN with a grain of salt. Why? Because of people like you. You're not the first to argue with me, so don't feel like you're anymore special than you should be. And I'm not sure as to why you try to insult SDN anyway. Do you honestly think I'm going to take personal offense to this? Absolutely not! The only reason I heed their advice because a lot of people on their are ACTUAL doctors and medical students. Yeah, there are disgruntled pre-meds everywhere, and not just here or SDN. The fact of the matter is, you'll find disgruntled pre-meds anywhere. But when it comes to medicine, should I honestly take advice from you, or from a Doctor? Honestly, I think taking advice from you would be like taking advice from a plumber. You're overreacting, you're overly defensive, and you're rubbing this hypothetical scenario in the wrong area's. You, my friend, need to take some sedatives, go get yourself evaluated for anger management, and chill the **** out. If your hearts desire is to take a personal swing at me, go ahead. You seem to enjoy this. I definitely am. </p>
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-My parents were shot dead when I was an infant. I was in foster care until I turned two. Two years of being orphaned, and yet, you tell me that I'm used to being babied around? Again, is this just another asinine attempt to turn this into a personal dispute? Seriously? My current parents never helped me with anything that was considered easy, or hard. Whatever it was, I had to do it myself. But the thing is, you assumed that that's how I was because you judged me based on a few lines of text on the internet. Pathetic. But hey, who am I to stand in the way of your overinflated ego? </p>
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-Generally, when one takes personal swings by insulting their intelligence, they would usually know how to read first. If you've cared to even read my response, then you would know that I HAD TO LOOK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION UP BY MYSELF. No help, no nothing. I even posted a thread here asking for a list. I barely received one. Searching and searching and searching went by until, eventually, I just said "**** it", and looked up every single University that I had in mind that I thought had these programs. This was a grand total of 104, shortened down to a list of 17. Good job. Shall I need to explain myself any further, or are the personal attacks just going to keep on rolling? By the looks of the rest of this idiocy, I can surely bet that there most certainly will be. By the way, "MS" stands for my initials. You renamed it to "Mess". How clever of you, there was absolutely no way I would've EVER THOUGHT OF THAAAAT. >_></p>
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Then I guess you have absolutely nothing to worry about since you have the guarantee of an SDN forum, right?
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-So basically you're also saying that because I DON'T have a guarantee on a college forum, such as this, that I SHOULD be worried? Please, enlighten me. I know you're trying. </p>
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-And just because it was feedback doesn't mean it's automatically praiseworthy. </p>
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-You're right! There aren't many people who are in the programs posting on SDN. Do you want to know why? Because they're already doctors! Their advice is just as good, if not BETTER, than a lot of the advice here. All I was looking for in terms of replies was just a simple copy/paste of the list that I had posted, and then that would be the end of that, and you could all go back to your happy-go-lucky overachieving lives. Again, you'll find disgruntled pre-meds EVERYWHERE. This just seems to be the hub of it all, at least from my experience. Such cynicism and negativity, it's making me break out. </p>
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you probably won't even get into one (not counting a Bachelor/D.O.), besides #6 and #11 and only bc they are NY state schools, none of the AMC programs as its private (although they may take pity since you are from NY), and Howard is a definite reach, does that help?
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-Hey look, in the midst of all of the stupidity, a shunt of an actual response! Woo hoo! See the thing is, I would have even preferred that you said this in your first response, simply because it would've made you feel better, and you wouldn't have had to waste time posting such nonsensical bull**** like your second response in the first place. It's also pretty obvious that you see the D.O. degree as inferior, judging by this response, though you try to refute this later in your post, which is pretty hypocritical anyway. </p>
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What's funny is the numerous things you say that show that you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about medical school, the process of getting into it, as well as about Bachelor/MD programs in general like saying, "it does not matter what medical school you go to as long as you want to be a doctor. The board scores and how much you dedicate your time to the work is what matters. Most, if not all, schools teach the same curriculum."
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<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/60756-does-matter-what-med-school-you-go.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/60756-does-matter-what-med-school-you-go.html</a>
Does</a> it matter what Medical School you go to? - Yahoo! Answers
Does</a> it matter which school you go to? | Military Medicine | Student Doctor Network
Does</a> prestige of the med school matter? | Pre-Medical Osteopathic [ DO ] | Student Doctor Network</p>
<p>So are you actually saying that, just because of the prestige of the medical school, that I won't be a doctor at all? It sure sounds like that. Med schools DO teach the same ciriculum, if you haven't noticed. Just because a school like Johns Hopkins teaches O-Chem in their med school, doesn't mean that a medical school like Howard won't. The fact of the matter is, you're STILL called, and referred to as "Doctor so and so". No doctor I have ever talked to introduced themselves as "Doctor so-and-so who graduated from Johns Hopkins". As far as I'm concerned, you can have good doctors graduating from Howard, and bad ones coming out of Johns Hopkins. This can go either way. But to say that the prestige of the med school is ALL THAT MATTERS, that is very egotistical of you to say in the first place. The real thing that matters is residency, which is like applying to medical school all over again. The residencies don't give two *<strong><em>s what school you went to once you're actually in the program, just like how Medical Schools don't give two *</em></strong>s about the type of undergrad you went to after being accepted. You're not the first one to tell me this, and you will not be the last.</p>
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Sorry genius, but you don't have a "fairly good PSAT", which is generally easier than the SAT.
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-I'd say that they are the same in difficulty. The only reason I would see the SAT as being harder is because the SAT also includes an essay section. The PSAT does not. But that really isn't a problem for me. And again with the personal attacks. I have never, nor will ever consider myself, a "genius". Please don't judge me based on one PSAT score from my SOPHOMORE YEAR. I haven't even gotten my Junior PSAT scores!</p>
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You don't even reach the cutoff as 218 was the cutoff for NY. Wow, you got tutored in the SAT!!! Congratulations.
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-Again, if you had read my original post, you would know that the PSAT scores were from my sophomore year, not this year. Idiot. So boohoo, a tenth grader wasn't able to score higher than 13% of all other Sophomores! It's the end of the world for me! I'm definitely going to have no future with THAT kind of a score. :O</p>
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Please don't give the BS about why you're choosing a Bachelor/MD program. We've heard the same speech again and again and nobody cares. You're not impressing anybody nor are you making yourself look better as you're lecturing people who know MUCH MUCH more about the process than you do now. If you think a 29 on the ACT and WANTING to become a doctor and your ECs is the magic ticket - who is stopping you? You obviously came here for the pat on the back, of "Oh don't worry Xelbmess, everything will be just the way you want it."
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-You have no idea how godawful this response is. I'm not going to bother. It just lowered my IQ. But who am I to judge? I'm not the one giving personal attacks and accusing people of having mental disabilities just because they don't take your advice with more than just a grain of salt. </p>
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I really don't give a flying ($%^ if you're applying to D.O. programs or not. No one is even talking about the different letters after the name.
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-Of course you don't give a flying ****! Why else would you take the time to write a book length response about how I'm wrong and have ADHD? It's obvious you just don't care at all. Really obvious there. </p>
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Please save the D.O vs. M.D. high horse shtick to yourself. It's tiresome. Nobody said that a D.O. is less competent or less intelligent. Stay on point. You seem to have ADHD.
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-Another personal attack! So that makes...7? Anyway, I don't actually have any type of disabilities. Your post would have been more well-suited had you decided to say A.D.D. instead of ADHD. The funny part of it all, is that you're the one who seems to be hyperactive and chemically imbalanced, judging by the tone of your post. It's obvious that anyone who disagrees with you has ADHD. Bravo. I would call you an idiot, but that would be an insult to all stupid people.</p>
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You're the one, alone by yourself, has made this a flame thread. You've argued with EVERY SINGLE PERSON and taken the opposite stance of every person on this thread. Good for you. It's obvious you truly need to learn life lessons as well as being able to take advice and opinions about chances for Bachelor/MD programs
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-And yet you're the only one who overreacted to one post I made. The only one! How unprofessional and immature can you get? Seriously? A book length response about how I'm stupid, ADHD, annoying, etc. It's basically just a response of personal attacks left and right. I don't even know you! And yet you're telling me that I'm making it a flame thread? Look who just made it a flame thread with his whole response! But it's obvious you'll be refusing to accept this reality, given the fact that all of your 115 posts are probably nothing but flame posts. Oh well, I can't change you. Nobody can. Maybe you should take my advice and chill the **** out, because it's obvious you have some issues that I don't want to get involved with. If you think your petty and immature personal attacks have affected me, you're dead wrong. But it has shown me that you are incapable of taking some criticism. I said earlier that not all feedback is praiseworthy. Maybe you should try repeating these words to yourself, and maybe it'll spare another poor soul from your idiocy.</p>
