Swarthmore is a college not a university. and doesn’t how or where you look, rankings will be similar for Unviersities. US News is right on the money when it comes to ranking schools.
Where are you getting this information? What does this even mean? By what criteria?
Most universities are comprised of colleges. When you attend a university, you often attend a specific college within the university, depending on your major. Why then would this make a difference if you major is housed within the college in question?
While I said this with all due respect, you are addressing people who have generally attended college, often grad school, and have embarked on careers, sometimes reaching the upper levels of management, in myriad fields. It might be worth listening to people who have “been there, done that” rather than a magazine trying to get clicks to raise their advertising revenue.
But not T20 colleges. I 100% agree that a free education at an instate public is the smart choice. However, calling GaTech or Tulane mediocre schools is just, um, okay. Not answering.
Wow. Very offensive. I have my doctorate. I will never understand the culture of judging colleagues and future work peers based on the name on the degrees they own. I know of plenty of unsuccessful and unhappy Ivy league grads.
Good luck!
Why, yes, I have! Quite a few actually. They take their community college degree and transfer to a 4 year, get their BA/BS, attend grad school, get their MBA or law degree, work hard and demonstrate their knowledge and competence, and eventually attain the title of CEO or president. It happens a lot more often than you think.
It actually does not. Again, with due respect, you are taking a very short-sighted, immature, and inexperienced view of the world. That is understandable - you are young and inexperienced! But the great thing about coming to CC and asking advice, is that many of our members have significant life experience to draw upon when assisting students trying to formulate their college lists and develop their applications. It would be wise to listen to that advice. If you are not interested in such advice, then I hear Reddit provides a nice echo chamber.
With all due respect to all educated and informed peopel here - my humble apologie if anyone took offense to my comments - My intent was not to discuss the quality of education at various colleges. I clearly indciated that I have a top Honors college in teh country with a full-ride as a backup. So imply shooting for the stars. i think its the reasonable thing to do to try and hope especially when school has been consistently sending at least 15-20 students every year to T20 collegs.
Also going to point out the irony of this statement coming from a planned women and gender studies major…
In fact one of the odd quirks of my particular legal practice is I have frequently interviewed or deposed CEOs and other C-level executives. Part of that involves asking them about their educational background. And in fact they have come from a wide variety of educational backgrounds.
Similarly, this is a fun article specifically looking at the highest-paid CEOs:
Key paragraph:
It is also worth highlighting that among the 2023 Fortune 100 CEOs, merely 11.8% obtained undergraduate degrees from Ivy League schools, with even fewer holding Ivy League MBAs. The success stories of CEOs like Doug McMillon of Walmart, who graduated from the University of Arkansas, confirm the value of performance over prestige in the corporate world. Furthermore, the prevalence of CEOs from public universities, such as Tim Cook of Apple Inc (NASDSAQ:AAPL) and Warren Buffett of Berkshire Hathaway, highlights the accessibility of success beyond Ivy League corridors.
But at the end of the day, if the OP is not interested in this discussion, then OK. I just think that limits what we can do for the OP.
Again, you are shooting for a name. That is NOT “the stars.” Your parents would not approve of our current presidential candidates names of the colleges they attended.
I understand your culture is stuck on T20’s as if its some title and badge of honor and its quite frankly mentally damaging to thousands of young adults.
With all due respect. You entirely missed my point. Exceptions do not prove the rule. Use of the term CEO may have been a hyperbole but the intent was to convey that elite schools openes door for bigger success than other school. There is a reason they are elite school. People don’t put them on pedestal because they charge an arm and a leg like a Louis Vuitton handbag.
starting to get offensive here sir. with constant use of “your parents” 'your culture"…
I would point out that OP’s original post was simply a chance me request. Is OP’s plan audacious? Yes, indeed. However, OP seems fine with that. Questioning OP’s judgment and forcing OP to defend their college choices is a bit gratuitous.
Thank you very much.
I am curious (within the context of college admissions) how a candidate can make such a statement, yet also indicate that they want to study women’s & gender studies and showcase their volunteer work with women’s shelters. There seems to be a significant disconnect, which may reveal itself in their application, despite the very impressive credentials.
This issue is their wildly inaccurate claims. Even if the OP is not open to hearing more accurate information on this topic, other students who may happen upon this thread, should be given the benefit of sound information.
not even going to try and answer a completely tangential comment with no connection to the ongoing debate. Anyways, came here to get some helpful suggesiton from other students - not engage in debates with grow-ups.
Most active members here are adults who are trying to use their experience to help young people.
My mistake then. Ended up posting on the wrong forum.
Omg I know we all thought the same thing! My husband and daughter are doing quite well as Rutgers grads (finance and accounting), heck my cousin has been a partner with Deloitte for decades, proud Murray State graduate.
If we’re splitting hairs here, the undergraduate branch of Harvard is Harvard College. Or ever heard of Dartmouth College? C’mon.
The current President of the United States has a bachelor’s degree from a state university with USNWR ranking #86 (lower than Rutgers) and a law degree from a low ranked law school. The current Vice President of the United States seeking election for President of the United States also graduated from a university with USNWR ranking #86 (different school, tied in rankings), though her low ranked law school is ranked somewhat higher than that of the President of the United States. Her running mate seeking election for Vice President of the United States graduated from a non-flagship state college that appears to be open admission, followed by a master’s degree from a different non-flagship state university (and was a well regarded teacher in the past).