Chance me: mid gpa from feeder for HYPSM, Caltech, Ivies [TX resident, 4.0 UW, 36 ACT, Math/CS]

Same.

Seconding Ga Tech, but that’s another high reach. Likely reachier than Cornell. Also might consider U Wisconsin, U Mass Amherst, UMD, and Purdue. All would be under $70K and less reachy than many on the list. OP should only add schools if they like those schools as well as ASU.

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In the end, you have a list that works if ASU is affordable.

Are there others that could work? UMN, KU, UMASS potentially depending on major,

Are all these placing people in at least some, if not all of your areas…yes.

Are they targets on a list? No.

Going to a target doesn’t make you a sure thing and going to a non-target doesn’t make you an impossiblity. Look up people on linkedin from each school that are in those roles of interest to you and ask their path, their guidance. I’m sure they’d be glad to share their journey as coming from a non target will likely have not been easy for them.

Who knows - you might get into a tippy top - but you might not. So take your shots - but also add some realism unless you’re satisfied with what you have (ASU) - which is a great school and has the not easy to get into IBIS program.

I agree Turing is perfectly fine for quant software engineering, which seems to be the best fit for the OP’s background and accomplishments. Turing is not a target for quant trading, but it’s still possible with the right background.

Of the other schools on the list, the ones strong for quant software engineering include: Stanford, MIT, Cornell and of course CMU. But colleges less known for CS like Princeton, Brown, and Harvard also do well.

For quant trading, the colleges that fare best are MIT, Princeton, Harvard, and Stanford. Others that do well include Brown, UChicago and Columbia. Note that GPA matters less than demonstrated excellence in mathematics. I know a 4.0 Yale CS student that couldn’t get an interview from any major quant trading firm. Ways to demonstrate this strength can be something like USAMO/MOP, or taking well-known honors math courses. At UChicago, this is the honors math sequence, and at Harvard it’s Math 55.

An interesting college is SUNY-Baruch, which punches way above its weight in finance. I know a few students from there that have landed quant trading positions, not at the most selective firms like Jane Street, but at solid firms like Virtu and IMC.

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Just be careful with EA applications – if you apply REA to a college, you will (in most cases) not be allowed to apply EA to other private colleges.

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I honestly think my estimate is accurate lol. People that don’t go t20 go to a good international school or selective LAC. The “worst” outcomes are still state flagship. It’s definitely not the “choose an ivy” that it was 30-40 years ago, but there are still t20-t25s where you can ed and over 80% get in

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I would not recommend Baruch to a student from TX as the vast majority of students are commuters.

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Agree, but OP did not indicate they are applying REA anywhere.

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Thanks, @DadOfJerseyGirl. I read these exact quotes from OP literally. Located in TX, Over 70% go to t20s and nationally ranked in 2 sports. Based on the subsequent and somewhat snarky replies I would only add that I hope OP’s essays are not written in that tone.

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Chiming in to say that this sort of profile is exactly who Chicago seems to love, especially if they are full pay and apply ED. I kind of think of Chicago as a safety school for A students from boarding schools. Look at any “top” boarding school college attendance results and you’ll see how the numbers skew strongly to Chicago as compared to other elite schools.

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601 of 1625 first years get need aid. Wow. Like Tufts and Wake - rich kid school. I didn’t realize !!

I know they recruit apps. My daughter expressed zero interest and they and WashU sent her late please apply app fee waivers.

So if OP is full pay - seems you’re onto something (even though they claim to be need blind).

Their endowment per student is MUCH lower than its peer schools. It has to chase full pay, accomplished students. The very students the other elite schools are moving away from. So for that cohort it is harder to get into the Ivies etc while at the same time being easier to be admitted to Chicago.

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Maybe why it and WU sent her an unsolicited app waiver. I figured was to lower Theyr acceptance rate. But could be they hit wealthy zip codes ??

If you have need based aid and get these outside scholarships, you are required to report them to the colleges. Your financial need will be less because if these awards, and at most colleges, this will reduce your need based aid awards.

You will need to check the policies about this at the above listed colleges.

If you are happy attending your sure thing college, then fine. But your top heavy list is just that. Top heavy.

Your school counselors will best be able to tell you how students have done in terms of admissions at these colleges…students similiar to you.

It sounds like you attend a private high school. Please speak to your school counselor. That’s what they are there for.

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I expect all of the above. Yes, wealthy zip codes, but also it wants more apps to lower its acceptance rate so it seems more desireable.

It’s a good – even great – school! But at least historically it has been a fit school, so not as desirable to large numbers of applicants.

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I don’t think this student has a shot at USAMO/MOP if he hasn’t yet gotten to AIME, so hopefully the math strength will show in college.

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I expect Chicago uses CB’s Landscape, so they have a good idea of a given applicant’s resources. And there are other SES ‘tells’ on apps too. Whether or not that’s need blind isn’t for me to decide.

Also, if a school knows someone didn’t apply for FA, is that need blind? What about in the case of an applicant who did apply for FA, but admissions doesn’t know their level of need? Or even if they have need? Some would say that’s technically need blind. :woman_shrugging:

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If someone is interested in STEM, state flagships are not “worse” than LAC in most cases. Often they are substantially better. Also, remember that “an ivy” is not meaningful. You’re far more likely to get that job you are aiming for if you attend Stanford, MIT, CMU, GaTech, or Caltech (none of which is “ivy”) than if you attend Brown or Dartmouth.

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My comment above was not meant to call into question how many students your high school sends to elite universities. It was meant more in the spirit of “wow that’s a really high performing school.” Looking at the matriculation lists from my alma mater, they are probably more like 50 percent to top 30s and another 20 percent to top LACs. 70 percent to top twenties alone is very high. Needless to say, plenty of students in the middle of the class at elite boarding schools will be accepted to top colleges. In my experience, the unhooked acceptances to HYPS and all of the acceptances to MIT and Caltech are near the top of the class - but maybe that is different at your school. I agree with @cinnamon1212 about U Chicago. They like full pay students but they also appreciate that kids from the top boarding schools will have no problem handling their academic rigor.

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I only just started preparing this month lol. Me “not having a shot” at usamo doesnt even matter, I dont want to do trading or pure math anyways so for anything above aime roi isnt worth it.

You interpreted my post incorrectly..? I only said I included all necessary information :joy: