@socaldad2002 - AYKM? Trash talking by parents? No wonder the kids are so stressed out, with parents dissing top-80 schools as worthy of nothing but “inferiority complex”! I have twins, both accepted at both UNC and State, the opportunities and the education at both schools are great! And don’t hit me with the “value” of a degree from State v UNC- I know kids from both schools who ended up in great grad schools, or at lucrative jobs, whichever they chose. It’s what they do, once they’re where they are, that matters more. Pretty much the same companies are recruiting from all three schools in that area, and taking top contenders from all three (Duke).