Fair enough! Good to know these things about yourself
Makes zero sense - a large public is a large public. And the top 30 as you see are not the top 30 b schools.
Bentley has merit aid. Babson is the #1 school for entrepreneurship in the country - very prestigious. Both are on the IB target school lists.
Transferring to a âbetterâ school. Schools arenât âbetterâ because a magazine says they are.
A ranking is to sell magazines. And for marketing. Example - my kid turned down Purdue engineering for a no name and yet works with and earns the same as Purdue and Michigan grads but also W Michigan, Akron and more. The real world isnât quite as black and white as you make it. Btw I was like you - he told me otherwise Iâm convinced heâs not wrong I see at work where a Vandy works for W Georgia I have an MBA I had a boss with no degree. Itâs like this in life. We had a Harvard Law working for Fairleigh Dickinson til the FDU person retired.
Nonetheless if you donât get into a âbetter school,â, add Indiana, Texas and SMU plus Arizona State and IBIS. Fordham too. Google any flagship and Investment banking + LinkedIn - whether Penn State, Ohio State, Florida, Colorado, Va Tech, UGA, Wisconsin, UMN,W&M and youâll find kids in IB. And youâll find most at UM or UVA or any school donât get close to it. And you donât look to transfer - thatâs the best way to do poorly your first year go, get involved, and pursue your goal with the same fortitude youâll need to do it from UM.
Have a budget - that your family can afford if they can afford $90k with no issue, great but if itâs a strain you are then taking on a boatload of risk for an unlikely outcome.
Schools arenât âbetterâ - sorry there are Michigan and UVA types at every flagship with your biggest National Merit schools down south - Bama, Florida and by percentage - Tulsa. Will UM and UVA place better in IB - yes, most likely. But that doesnât mean good. And outside of that since you donât know what you want five years from now (a 24 hr review hasnât given you the answer), students from all schools will be working side by side with one another.
Open your eyes a bit more. Reading a rank isnât the way to pick a school. But here are your target schools in pic and another with a link. Go to the per capita on the bottom youâll see both Babson and Bentley (who has merit). When you look at rank, they are looking at certain banks - the major ones. There are many others and some hire regionally - example a Rice, SMU, UT might pull Texas firms, etc. Good luck
I removed the link. Itâs not work but google college transitions + IB feeders.
Here are some images.
Here is another list of top schools for investment banking:
Iâd say UMich and Williams are drastically different. Have you visited Williams? Itâs not anything like UMich.
Did not intend to come off as complacent by saying âbetter school.â Idk if you know this but Iâm asian so where I go to college ultimately depends on how my parents view the school. Even if I explain to them Babson is #1 in entrepreneurship, they will not care and will still make me do state school â transfer to more prestigious t30. It really is unfortunate and I do miss out on a lot of schools, but thats just the way its gonna have to beâunless I want to take out a bunch of student loan debt which is not something I want to do.
Sounds less like Top 30 than âSchools my parents have heard of.â The Top 30 differs based on what ranking youâre looking at and what theyâre trying to sell. Others have pointed out that there are schools that are better at what you say you want to study than the ones your parents may have heard of, so I would recommend cross-tabbing those they find acceptable with ones who need a clarinetist, which is the strongest part of your profile.
Youâve got an objectively great record on paper, but the schools I suspect youâre thinking about have an abundance of kids with your profile or better. Outside of the clarinet, Iâm not sure how you stand out at Williams which is small and UMich who get a ton of great applicants. Why do they have to have you? Thatâs the question you have to answer, and respectfully, I donât see how state schools that have small slots for out of staters and small schools and Ivies (little or big) answer this positively for you.
Eventually youâre going to have to face the fact that you need to expand your list beyond the schools that every kid with a great application applies to. Which to me means you need to start educating your parents on some of these other schools. And yourself, maybe.
Good luck.
By the way, Iâm not saying donât take a shot, just saying you have to manage your expectations. I also wouldnât get too locked in on the finance business as a screening mechanism. Donât think any of the NESCACs or many other LACs who show prominently in finance have them for majors.
I donât see Bentley on that list. And if those numbers are to be believed, not all state schools are the same.
They donât really need to have a finance major - Williams econ grads do fine in finance.
This was my point.
Initially OP did not have a desired outcome. So the comment was made outside of IB. That came after OP researched careers yesterday, which as you know in 24 hrs does not make it a reality of what theyâll want in 5 years.
Babson and Bentley are on the linked - you have to scroll down to the last table per capita.
I put the image here for you. When only looking at the first chart, you are looking at raw #s. This chart equalizes for program size.
OPâs true answer to Michigan is Indiana. Itâs highly ranked, places into IB, and is basically every large top schoolâs candidate safety for business - prestigious but not an overly difficult admit.
I donât think itâs a problem to have a list comprised of LAC and big Flagship schools. Itâs fine to apply to both types and decide when the time comes which better fits the person who you will be in the spring of your senior year balanced with what your parents will support.
FYI your math coursework might cause some problems. UMich Ross explicitly states 4 years of math are expected for all applicants. Wisconsin lists 3 years as a minumum for math excluding statistics, business math and computer science courses. At UW, your transcript would be evaluated as having 2 years of math. Iâm not saying that to scare you, but itâs important to be aware of how your academic record fits with each Universityâs expectations.
I agree. The issue is when you want to ED one and the next day say - how about this one and itâs polar opposite. Binding oneself when they donât have any idea what they want beyond prestige is my concern.