Chance Me with low GPA and 11 Ws +5Fs (CC transfer student) [VA resident, 3.1 college GPA, CS major]

A CS degree from most any accredited school will get you where you want to go. I suggest enrolling near where your job takes you. Your plan as described above sounds unnecessarily convoluted.

Would you like suggestions in the state you will relocate to for your job?

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My community college has transfer agreements with GMU, VT, and UVA. For GMU CS transfer, students need to finish an AS in CS to transfer. For VT & UVA CS, students need to do an AS in engineering at my community college in order to transfer there to pursue a CS degree.

I only have 6 more classes to finish the AS in CS if I pursue GMU, but I need 11 classes if I want to pursue VT or UVA. GMU is my safety school in case I don’t get clearance and cannot work at my incoming engineer job. However, if I do get clearance, then I would have to move to NM, and the closest school is NMSU. I don’t know if they will let me transfer with an AS in CS or AS in engineering from my community college. In case an Ivy League school accepts me, then I would delay my education by 2 more years and work at my aerospace company for 2-3 years, then do an internal transfer to a company location that is close to the Ivy League school and enroll part-time (the company will pay for my education) or full-time (I’ll take out loans or get a scholarship).

I have a few personal reasons I want to get into an Ivy League school. It’s because my parents didn’t finish 5th grade, and I want to break that cycle and make them proud. My impression of Ivy League schools, or Harvard, is from a course called CS50. Prof. David has so much knowledge and passion. This class inspired me to get into Harvard and challenge myself more. To be honest, I haven’t done a lot of research, but the extension school doesn’t look good, but the other non-traditional student programs look legit. Thank you for the heads up! I didn’t know they might not even have a CS major.

I was thinking, since I already got a job offer from one of the most prestigious companies in aerospace, I don’t have to worry about a job anymore with clearance on hand. And I can take school slowly. At this point in my life, I have made a lot of mistakes and become insecure because of it. Getting into a prestigious school would help bring some honor back to myself and my family. So, it is more of a symbolic thing than about money.

You still have a lot of classes.

If you have a great job, follow it.

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Thank you for kicking some sense into my head. Getting into an Ivy League school is deeply personal to me. I am very lucky and humbled to have received a job offer that will give me clearance, that guarantees I will never be jobless. At this point, as you said, I’m not going to school for a job, but just for the sake of it. I have ADHD and I cannot stop thinking about it. I keep thinking that I will regret it for the rest of my life if I don’t get into a top school.

I’m from an Asian background and I’m a shame to my family for staying at a CC for so long. Without a top school to my name, I will never be able to look up.

Your thinking needs adjustment and updating.
You have a good job, in an industry that is the pride of our country, with excellent benefits.

You have overcome many obstacles already.

Your hard work got you there, not the name of a school.

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I encourage you to seek the advice of a mental health professional. Your proposed course of action is motivated by your own fear of not meeting your family’s expectations. You can’t change them, but you can change yourself with help.

You have many reasons to be proud of yourself. Does it all mean nothing unless the piece of paper says Harvard or similar? No. Talking to an expert will help you find satisfaction for yourself with what you have achieved.

You’re at least 24 or 25. Getting a degree is a wonderful achievement but it’s not a be all and end all. If your goal is ABET accreditation as an engineer, that’s a great goal. Go to college for the right reasons: to further your career, not to wave a piece of paper in front of your family.

Edit: your family has their own issues. You’re not responsible for trying to hide their fifth grade education (which I’m sure they didnt choose for themselves). Stop allowing them to make you feel shame on their behalf. You are not here to fix their problems.

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The programs you are planning to apply to at these Ivies are their non-traditional programs. Do you understand these programs? It doesn’t sound like you do.

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I also deal with ADHD and I know all about repetitive thoughts. What’s important to remember, though, that it’s just your brain misbehaving, it’s not a clear view of reality. It’s not your conscience or planning that’s telling you ā€œimagine if you attended Harvardā€, it’s that part of your brain that is messed up because of ADHD. There are different methods and tricks to stop those repetitive loops in your brain, and that is something that you should look up and try.

To be absolutely honest - the shame is entirely theirs, not yours.

It was the responsibility of your parents to make sure that your ADHD was diagnosed and treated, and they dropped the ball. You have done the best that you could do under the circumstances and your best included getting a well-paying job.

If you needed glasses and your parents refused to get you diagnosed with myopia and refused to get you glasses, would you feel ashamed of not doing well in school? That is the same thing.

They may not be entirely at fault - they may have been too busy working, not been familiar with the entire concept or AHDHD, etc. However, that just means that their neglect was because of ignorance, not because of malice, but it was still their neglect, and you are where you are because of their failure.

You do not owe it to your parents to attend a prestigious colleges, or even try to attend a prestigious college. You owe it to yourself to find the best way to make sure that you will have a secure financial future. Trying to find a way to attend an ā€œeliteā€ college will not help you secure your financial future, and may actually endanger it.

I will repeat: You. Have. Not. Failed.

Now go and start planning how you will do those six additional courses to secure your transfer to GMU!

Also - everything that @Lindagaf wrote.

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Demographics

  • US citizen
  • State/Location of residency: VA
  • Type of high school (current college for transfers): Northern Virginia Community College
  • Gender/Race/Ethnicity (optional): Asian
  • Other special factors (first generation to college, legacy, athlete, etc.): Below in the ECs section.

Intended Major(s)

  • Computer Science

GPA, Rank, and Test Scores

  • Unweighted HS GPA: 3.1
  • Weighted HS GPA: N/A
  • College GPA (for transfers): 3.3 GPA, 5 Fs, 4Cs, and 11 W.
  • Class Rank: N/A
  • ACT/SAT Scores: N/A

Coursework

  • Typical engineering/cs classes for community college students.

Awards

  • $12,000 scholarship from NSF.
  • $3,000 scholarship from 2 defense companies and a random Microsoft scholarship for stem.

Extracurriculars

  • I have a 3.3 GPA, 5 Fs, 4Cs, and 11 Ws at my current CC (my GPA was bad due to non-diagnosed ADHD).
  • Non-tech start-up with $160k revenue, $80k profit during COVID.
  • Solo-started a charity hobby project and raised $3k for a nonprofit to help with COVID-19.
  • A NASA internship.
  • 2 NASA student programs (did really well in one and was the only team that got the max score, then received a fully paid trip to a NASA research center in Cali for a week).
  • Short internship with a F500, helping a nonprofit.
  • Non-traditional & first-gen student (both my parents didn’t finish 5th grade).
  • Multiple disabilities (learning and physical).
  • Low income.
  • Working in healthcare full time (at 5,000 hours now) while going to school full-time.
  • 2 hobby projects lasting a whole year to finish from the business with real revenue/profit.
  • I handmade hundreds of products sold during COVID-19 (these products are very niche and hard to make. It took a whole day to make each of them).
  • My parents and grandparents were victims of Agent Orange before I was born (I might also have it).
  • Full-time systems engineering offer at a well-known aerospace company.
  • currently in two interview final rounds for engineering/pm intern in an F200, so I may able to land a summer 24 internship.
  • One JPMC swe internship before I transfer.
  • Mentored 5 first gen students and helped one transfer to a uni with full tuition cover.
  • Babysitting 2 of my sisters for 11 years.
  • Support my mom with her brain tumors and after surgery
  • Spent three years inventing the world’s jiggliest and smoothest flan that will melt in your mouth. I had to make multiple batches each day, every day for 3 years. I put a ton of time into research and finally created something that even the Japanese can’t do with their purin. I have spent thousands of hours on this, from making all the flan recipes to reading different articles on the dessert from the very beginning of the internet in various languages. To use most of my saving and fly out to another country to try their most famous flan.

Essays/LORs/Other

  • Essays: Not started yet.
  • LORs: I will likely receive strong LORs from my mentor, as well as from my math, counselor, and English professor.

Cost Constraints / Budget

  • N/A

Schools

  • Safety: GMU
  • Likely: VT, UVA
  • Match: T20
  • Reach: T5, Berkeley, Oxford, Harvard, and MIT.

Transferring to an Ivy is not easy

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Most top 20 schools have lower enough acceptance rates that they are not matches…for anyone.

I’m not sure I see much change in your post here from the last one.

Top 5 are included in the top 20. Right? What schools do you really think are matches.

Or to CAL as an OOS student. Or to MIT.

And I still think this will be an issue.

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I can transfer to a CCC and establish residency in the state. I only need to wait for a year, and during that time, I can pursue an internship at a big bank, which is perfect. Then, I can transfer from CCC to Cal.

What are you going to do? Apply to CA schools or VA schools. If you apply at the same time, you will NOT be an instate student in both states. Won’t happen.

And plus, this would then mean you would be transferring…twice. IIRC there is a maximum number of credits for CA transfers. @gumbymom or @ucbalumnus

Am internship at a bank…doing what?

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I’m an independent student so it is only a year wait for me. I can do a swe internship while waiting for in state status. I believe most of my classes will transfer to the CCC. Then I only need to do a semester or two and I can apply to Berkeley as Cali resident.

Many people on Reddit subreddits related to transfers have told me that my ECs are insane. I can still do more ECs. What will it take to get me into an Ivy League school?

Here is the link to OP’s original thread: Chance Me with low GPA and 11 Ws +5Fs (CC transfer student) [VA resident, 3.1 college GPA, CS major]

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UC Transfer GPA by major information for CS at UC Berkeley was 3.81-4.00. A 3.3 GPA will not be competitive and the only UC within that range is UC Merced. EC’s do not make up for a lower academic performance.

Wishing you luck but it does not seem like a well thought out plan.

Edited: If you all your credits were taken at a community college, then the maximum credits that are transferable is 70 semester/105 quarter units to any of the UC’s. If you have credits from a 4 year university, these could be added to the maximum and possible put you some of the limits as a High unit Junior transfer.

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