<p>I really hope that this gets publicized and that in and of itself will force CB and ACT to change this policy. I don’t buy the argument that there is an unfair lack of objective or third party oversight. I was also unaware that “any” cancelled score has the potential to raise some level of suspicion on the part of the colleges whether the scores were cancelled by the student or the proctor. I know people who cancelled their own scores due to test room anomalies (proctor did not give adequate time) and had no clue that this was something with which to be concerned. My own child had a difficult decision to make - came out of her first SAT with a fever. Knowing this could have influenced her decision as to whether or not to cancel. At any rate, this particular incident does not seem to fall into the gray area that may exist when a student is accused by another of cheating, but there is no proof. Get adequate supervision in the test taking centers -and if there’s enough evidence to support the allegation, as there seems to be here, it should be reported. The current policy is, especially now, and as one person in the linked article states, no less than an invitation to try to see if one can get away with cheating.</p>
<p>Cheating on tests, especially aptitude tests such as the SAT, is utterly disgusting.</p>
<p>It’s not so disgusting when the incentives outweigh the possible punishment.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the decision advocates the fact that cheating on college placement tests (well, not their AP tests since they basically raped all 300 of those students) is a minor issue. However, organizations such as the College Board are supposed to assess how “prepared” students are for college classes. College administrations treat cheating as a severe offense and thus, college students do not cheat. Perhaps organizations like the College Board should reduce this imbalance by making the consequences for cheating more severe in order to give students the feeling of taking a college test.</p>
<p>Also, I believe that there was a study that proved that the SAT is heavily biased towards rich/upper middle class white/Asian males who live in the north because the writers are rich/upper middle class white/Asian males who live in the north. Can anyone confirm this?</p>
<p>If they established a system where some cheating was more severely punished than other “cheating” it would help some.</p>
<p>If you broke a minor rule (like the watch beeping) you could just have that test voided. If you tried something more serious (like hiring someone else to take the test) it could be reported to colleges.</p>
<p>Wah lao – I just got a whole year’s worth of credits because of AP scores … if I had them cancelled because of classmates’ actions, I would be pretty darn upset.</p>
<p>I found out that two students cheated on the ACT. Using a scanner they created a fake ID and one student took the ACT for the other. She got a 24, just high enough so that the student who had been denied admission to a university based on a low ACT score could get in. I know the students cheated. They asked a third student to use her scanner and later confessed to the third student why they had used it. My question is: Don’t students have to turn in a photocopy of their ID at the test site? That way if there is any question of a fake ID, it can be checked out later. The girl who tested had her picture on the other girl’s ID. Checking with the high school would reveal the deception.</p>
<p>I don’t recall having had to turn in a photocopy though. When I took the ACT, I just showed my ID, took the test, and left.</p>
<p>oh wow.</p>
<p>EVERYONE cheats on the SAT IIs.</p>
<p>… except meeeeee :)</p>
<p>After reading all of the threads, I do think that if a student had another student take the test using a fake ID, there should be serious consequences. Many honest students take that test over and over trying to raise their score. Higher scores often mean more scholarship dollars and/or college acceptance. I had no idea it was easy to get in with a fake ID. Well, apparently it is, and there should be safeguards in place to prevent this fraud.</p>
<p>Is there any system that isn’t rigged?</p>
<p>The civil service?</p>
<p>I don’t think there is often any consequences for using a fake ID (and having another student take the test) such as the test results getting cancelled, being suspended, and so on. It is too hard to prove. However, in the case of those two girls and others who cheat to get into a college- everyone who knew them in their hometown will know since they told a friend who told a friend who told a friend… Pretty awful to have this added to one’s reputation never knowing when your parents, teachers, prospective employers will find out. Plus, it’s pretty awful to know you were admitted by cheating- getting scholarship dollars based on a score you didn’t earn- and now you have to keep up. Frankly, I would rather have gone to a community college than have all that baggage to carry through life.</p>
<p>Sometimes you may actually be qualified but it’s just that your test scores are unrepresentative of your brilliance cuz of bad time management. I may not actually feel that guilty in their position but I suppose that it depends on the individual. (Not that I would take the risk of cheating in the first place.)</p>
<p>I’m not sure they feel guilty, uneasy maybe. They may have rationalized the fraud, but I’m sure they didn’t want other people to know, and now their secret is out and this is a small town. They are probably hoping the news doesn’t travel to their parents.</p>
<p>I hope they feel guilty.</p>
<p>I discovered that people from my High School were cheating. The worst is that everyone in my school knew. Because the ACT uses a different test for latin America, it is easy to do it there. They mess up a lot. Even when the ACT was told about it, they did not do anything. They just said that we should not worry.</p>
<p>Then what happens when the ACT mess up and they give you the answers for the test. It happens more commonly that you thing. I know many cases.</p>
<p>They can’t. I suppose they would have to scan and e-mail each ID to the high schools for later verification. They don’t do that. If they did it would probably cut down on most of the cheating.</p>
<p>In my school it happened. The ACT messed up and forgot to change the questions. They gave the same questions for the April, May and all the ACT dates. They did not care. Even when they were denounced.</p>