Chit chat about Boston...what's good, and not so good about it!

^ Correction: It should be Somerville, not Summerville.

Where is the Amtrak Station? In the South End or South Boston? Where is the Mega Bus station (Is it how this bus is called?) Since there are so many students in Boston, I would imagine some may take bus or train when they need to go to another city. This is a part of NE after all (so the public inter-city transportation may be more available), unlike in the South/South West of the country where you almost always drive.

DS once said the bus was cancelled without advanced notice (at least he did not notice it in time.) He needed to rush to the Amtrak Station to catch the last train out of Boston on that day. Is the Mega Bus service relatively reliable and he happened to have a bad luck on that day?

Well I won’t crash the thread - thanks for the input on Boston/seaside - I may start another separate thread at some point soon for more details! :slight_smile:

Re: “lack of space” in Cambridge…S has been keeping me up-to-date on this development project which would directly impact him. I’m sure there’s more in-depth articles but I can’t put my hands on them at the moment.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/01/volpe-center-project-draws-big-name-developers/kbhkXXmEb1BhJ7y2CnG2eJ/story.html

Amtak stops at both south station and back bay.

I think some Megabus routes stop at south station also.

I live in NJ so I am spoiled by the abundance of theater in NYC.

The buses do not run well in bad weather.

Driving in Boston is difficult - not only are streets narrow - many are unexpectably one way and rush hour can be a nightmare (just too much volume to handle)

One annoying thing is that there are two train stations in Boston and they are not connected. Most trains, including the one to NYC and points south and west go out of South Station. Many commuter trains and the train to Maine run out of North Station…
Good places to visit in Maine would be a trip to Salem (30 minute ride) train goes right to downtown, or to Rockport or Newburyport as others have all mentioned. I be
I believe the other two stations are not close to downtown, not sure about how to get to the city so I’d check before heading out.
Portland ME and Portsmouth NH are great to visit for an overnight from Boston and easy to reach on train.
There is a train to the cape but it may only ripen in summer, not sure.
There is also a pretty decent bus system.

Boston is a very walkable city, even in winter, so lots to do.

I remember the bleacher seats at Fenway Park cost only 75 cents when I first went to ballgames. My 1975 World Series Game 6 ticket cost only $6.00.

Others mentioned traffic and I’d add that when you approach a rotary when driving, try to enter it and quickly get into the lane closest to the island. As you drive around the rotary look for openings on your right BEFORE it’s time to get off the rotary. If you are blocked in then go around the rotary another time. Have your passengers look and tell you when to bear right. In this case the inside is the right side as it avoids the craziness of drivers getting on and off or all trying to head to the same spot. You’ll see what I mean.

My wife and I both had our cars stolen in Boston. Mine was never found and the police thought it was driven to RI where it would be stripped and sold for parts. My wife’s car was stolen on a winter night. She got a phone call the next morning from the culprit telling her where it was, and to hurry over before it was towed. He left it right in the middle of the street with the driver’s window smashed! I also had every piece of sports equipment that I owned stolen from my car in a parking garage one time. Boston once was the stolen car capitol of the US.

You can walk from the State House/Boston Commons area to Fenway Park/ Kenmore Square in May and have a great time.

Driving on Storrow Drive is awful. Getting on it…and getting off of it…awful. I far prefer public transport or walking in Boston.

Boston is a very walkable city and there is plenty to do in various areas of interest. Driving is a bit crazy.

@basket : As far as going to the ocean in May and without a car, the suggestions of going to up to Gloucester and Rockport and those areas may be fun and not so much a beach thing but more just nice coastal towns for browsing. I was in Portsmouth, NH two days ago and that would be a fun day trip too. Same with Southern Maine. You could do a day trip to Newport, R.I. as well. But, if I didn’t have a car, I would be more inclined to take the ferry out of Boston to Provincetown on the end of Cape Cod. It is a really fun town to explore and walk around and do things, and the National Seashore is right there and is gorgeous and if the weather is OK, you could walk or spend some time on the beach.

As far as theater goes, well, of course it is not going to be like NYC, which is the biggest theater mecca in the US. Chicago would be second in line. But Boston does get national tours and there are several theater companies, plus many local college productions, including at schools with very strong theater programs. Further, there is American Repertory Theater (A.R.T.) in Cambridge which is professional theater of high regard. Several plays and musicals that premiered there have then gone to Broadway, including a couple in this season.

I live in Cambridge.

^^^ agreed. We’ve taken to parking at the Alewife station (the farthest point out on the Red Line), and using public transport for the rest of the day.

Just found out there is a Red Line stop at South Station, which is near Summer and Atlanta.

We can take Amtrak Acela Express at South Station. Not sure which one is underground: the Amtrak (south) station, or the Megabus station, at South Station.

The Red Line goes to Cambridge, crossing the Charles River near (or a little bit south of) MGH. The Green Line passes through the area near BU on the other side of Charles River (maybe continue on to Allston?)

This is a newbie’s view about the subway system in Boston.

Well, the busses ran better than the red line from Braintree, last winter.

Before anyone tries to drive a car in or out of the city, you’d better check the time of day traffic. Trip Advisor always has folks telling visitors to just zip down to Newport, up to the Cape or points north. Not always as easy as it sounds.

My favorite thing of late was the Prudential Center and a meal at Top of the Hub. @abasket visiting on a business account and for a short trip, you could go for a drink and a spectacular look at the city and the harbor.

Boston Common is singular.

The city is cobbled together from landfills so there is no overriding order and getting around, however you do it, takes some getting used to. Just don’t get sucked onto the Tobin bridge! Nasty.

I also used to be a green line commuter and I heard the rumor that the downtown tunnels were built back when the trolleys were pulled by horses. There are a few hairpin turns in there that make it impossible to have long subway cars or for the shorter trolley cars to go fast.

I’m wondering what’s going on in East Cambridge these days. It used to be all car salvage lots and Portuguese sports clubs. I bet it’s gentrified intensely.

And I don’t believe anyone has mentioned the Emerald Necklace yet. You can connect the downtown Boston Commons and public gardens to the green strip along commonwealth avenue, to the back bay fens and all the way out to the edge of the city and Jamaica Pond. Very nice!

D1 lives in Manhatten. D2 lives in Somervile. Not knowing the Boston area very well since my sister lived in Boston many, many years ago, I guess this is near Davis Square which is apparently a great place to be for her age group. She is 25.

Although D2 has lived in Boston just a few months short of 2 years, she only moved to her current apartment 4 months ago. H and I gave not seen it yet. But apparently she has a good deal paying $ 700 a month in a four bedroom. This includes parking for her car. She may have to pay some utilities. The T is close by, as she has to go to downtown Boston to work.

D1, by comparison lives alone and pays $2000-3000+/month with no parking. Okay, as she does not have a car. She just bought a place on the UES and will be moving in about 4 months after doing some major renovation on the place she bought. The monthly price will be even more.

I think Boston is easier to get around by car and cheaper to live in than NYC, Manhattan specifically. I do not think the T is as good as the subway. My understanding is the T is like a spoke. If traveling from one branch to the other, you have to go to the core. There is no “cross-town” T. So things take longer. IDN, maybe my D2 needs to learn buses.

But D2 likes Boston. It does seem to be a city young people move to, or stay a few years after graduating from a Boston school and eventually leave. She has already had this happen with friends 3 or 4 times. This has also been the case with my sister, niece, niece’s H, and numerous kids from my area.

I know people who are living in South Boston and paying this for a studio, with no parking. One bedrooms in Southie can run $3500 and two bedrooms $4000. Of course, you people don’t have to live in South Boston, but it has got an awful lot going for it right now for young people (recently out of college).

I’ve lived in the Boston area (Cambridge, Western suburbs) for most of my adult life. We own a studio on Somerville and our D lives in Brookline. I travel quite a bit for work – these days one or two trips a month to Europe and assorted trips elsewhere (New York, Bogota, Riyadh, Istanbul, Sao Paulo, Bermuda, San Francisco, Toronto, …) and know some cities reasonably well.

Things I think are good about Boston:

First and foremost, because of Harvard, MIT, Tufts, BU, BC, … and the biotech, high-tech, and financial firms (many of which have spun out of MIT and Harvard), Boston has more interesting people per capita than the other cities I know. This is a large part of the reason that I have remained here. We meet really fascinating people at parties and/or university events and invite over for dinner leading geneticists, psychologists, professors of public policy and business, consultants, biotech execs, journalists, artists, etc. We are always learning.

Second, Cambridge and Boston have interesting neighborhoods and the Charles River running between them makes for some nice views and areas.

Third, unlike NY, one can go 12-15 miles out of town and be in beautiful places in the Western suburbs/exurbs. Good cross-country skiing, snowshoeing, bicycling, kayaking, etc. One can get to beaches on the North Shore (I don’t really know the South Shore) and fabulous places (albeit expensive) like Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket are not too difficult to reach.

For the last decade or so, the sports teams have been pretty strong.

On the not so good side, it is ridiculously expensive (though cheaper than NY and SF), the infrastructure seems overly taxed, and state and city politics are embarrassingly bad. Although there are a few weeks of spring and fall each year that are lovely, I can’t say much else that is positive about the weather.

What is special about South Boston so that people are willing to pay a premium in order to live there? A lot of restaurants for sure. Isn’t Chinatown there? Maybe an easy access to south station?

People wanting to get in on the ground floor of the waterfront redevelopment district. Actually, it’s probably too late for people wanting to get in on the ground floor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Boston
From the article:

Of course there are some people who are not happy about it, but there are a lot of young Generation X and Millennials who are flocking to the area.

Teriwtt-I am probably wrong about what she is paying for rent now. That is why I put the + I seem to remember a # from 3 years ago and have no idea of the increases each year, which I do know there was. Haha
At this point in our lives and age, I do not ask the specifics about her income or what she pays for whatever. I do know what she paid for her new place and approximately what she will be paying for renovations.

And this totals to 6 figures. I also know the place is not a studio but not large. Has a nice private outside space on their 17th floor place.

It still seems Boston is less expensive than Manhattan. When considering the other boroughs, it is a whole nother story.Also when considering the outskirts of Boston.