<p>^^^One can only hope.</p>
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<p>Yet another testament to the ethics and integrity of the Clintons’ and … their hard core supporters.</p>
<p>xiggi,
How DARE you suggest that I am unethical. You know nothing about me or my integrity. Have you never heard of sarcasm?</p>
<p>I promised myself I would stay away from this forum because of posters like you who clearly have NO other life that hang out here and be nasty. Well, I learned my lesson. So, I’ll go back to my busy life and continue working for Hillary’s nomination in a meaningful way rather than waste my time on this silly site.</p>
<p>Bye-Bye.</p>
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<p>What’s the recent count of superdelegates? </p>
<p>One week ago:</p>
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<p>On January 1, 2008 … fill the blanks and draw your own conclusions! :D</p>
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<p>Your words, your words …</p>
<p>“One can only hope Hill & Bill are plotting to steal [the nomination]”</p>
<p>Count me in as happy to have Hillary as the nominee any way she can make it happen.</p>
<p>OK, maybe not ANY way. But close :)</p>
<p>“Don’t worry Hill & Bill are plotting to steal it as we speak!”
“One can only hope.”</p>
<p>Mark? Howard, is that you??? ;)</p>
<p>“We have had 43 men in the job, it’s time for a woman.”</p>
<p>You’re right, I too am ready for a woman. Just not Hillary. I would like a woman who has earned her political stripes in her own right. Sorry, can’t support any scorched earth, carpetbagging, coat tail riding candidate.</p>
<p>“Lastly, I do not believe that anyone is ready for the White House in 2 short years on the national scene.”</p>
<p>From your above statement, I have extrapolated that you did not support the never heard of governor from Arkansas in '92?</p>
<p>Aw, c’mon runmanstl, don’t leave! As your candidate would say, now the fun part starts! We’re just getting warmed up! 
We all have very full lives, this is a great time-out from the daily grind and frankly, it’s my guilty pleasure.</p>
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<p>Getting the superdelegates to vote for you =/= stealing the election. For all the logic and #'s the Obama people like to toss around they always forget that it’s perfectly acceptable for the SD’s to go for Clinton, it’s in the rules.</p>
<p>As a neutral and international observer, I must say the last few months have been entertaining. It seems like the Democrats have all but destroyed their chances. In February, the momentum was clearly on Obama’s side, not only in the Democratic primaries, but for the race to the Whitehouse. Obama had just won 13 straight primaries and led in a hypothetical head to head encounter vs McCain whereas Clinton, who had lost 13 stragith primaries appread to lose in a head to head encounter vs McCain. </p>
<p>At that time, the responsible thing for Hilary Clinton to do was to step down gracefully and back Obama for President. Had that happened, Obama’s lead over McCain would have strengthened,as he could turn his attention to the presidential election. Now, it has all but evaporated. Furthermore, as Clinton and Obama duke it out, McCain is off to Europe and the Middle East, acting presidential and planting seeds that will prove invaluable to him in July-November. </p>
<p>In short, Democrats are pretty much finished. Not that I care one way or the other. As a non-American, this does not really affect me. But Democrats in the US should be feeling pretty depressed right about now.</p>
<p>I wish everybody could read what Alexandre has to say and see it from the perspective of somebody outside the U.S. </p>
<p>I am tired of travelling overseas and being embarassed by our President. I am tired of listening to him speak and cringing. I am tired of the reputation of some of our politicians and want someone who can pronounce all the words and hasn’t cheated on his spouse.</p>
<p>Clinton should have quit weeks ago and given the Democratic party a chance. She doesn’t care about anything but her own ambitions and that is why I won’t vote for her. </p>
<p>I would love to see a woman President. But one I can respect.</p>
<p>I too have traveled overseas quite a bit. I’ve actually lived/worked/visited about 15 countries; give or take. I’ve never felt embarrassed about our president or being an American. Every single country out their has their issues and problems also. But when the dust settles and you look at what the United States does towards the good of mankind globally; human rights, aid, defense, trade; and not including that we are still the most immigrated country; (And that doesn’t even include the illegals); our country has every right to be proud. With all the disagreements I’ve had with how Ford, Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush have handled some things, I would still take every one of those leaders compared to the majority of countries and their leadership, political, and economic policies.</p>
<p>If it came down to just Clinton or Obama, I would have no problem supporting Clinton. It’s obvious from many of my other posts that I currently think McCain is the best choice. It’s also obvious from many of my other posts that I’ve had no problem voting and supporting a democrat when I thought they were the best. I had no problem voting for carter his 2nd term and Clinton his 2nd term.</p>
<p>Now I’m not sure if Clinton can beat Obama for the Democrat nomination, but if she did, that would be great. So many people thinking she should have dropped out by now. WHY??? She’s only 100+ votes away from Obama. She’s a more experienced person with government and foreign relations. She has more leadership experience and insight on accomplishing tasks. No, I think she should stick it out. Personally, none of the 3 are the best choice we could have had, but there is no doubt in my mind that I could support clinton or McCain over Obama.</p>
<p>Of course, there are some that think Clinton and McCain are diametrically opposed in their politics, that there’s no way I should be able to support both equally. The truth is; there’s about a handful of things I like about Clinton over McCain and about the same for McCain over clinton. While Clinton and Obama have basically the same political positions; duh, they’re both democrats; I think Hillary has what it takes to be successful at accomplishing what is needed. Obama is too inexperienced; seems to be all talk; his greatest accolades that people talk about with him are his college days; (College should be an educational and social ladder to prepare you to do great things in years to come. There’s something wrong when the college days are your highlights.) No, Obama may have some nice dreams and speaks well in motivating people, but I don’t think he could accomplish anything.</p>
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Alexandre is back to the parent’s forum. Cool! Missed your sane/crazy/brilliant/ignorant/funny/sad/left/right/up/down and somewhere in between insight.</p>
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While I certainly don’t have the laundry list of countries and number of times overseas that Christcorp does, this was the sentiment I heard from the people in Ireland I spoke with last week. They think Bush is a nut job, and they think it’s time for some new blood in the White House (Hillary is too closely associated with Bill to consider her new). They worry that McCain is too old and perhaps has some unresolved issues from his POW days. </p>
<p>But the most oft heard remark was that Obama better understands the nuances of being part of a global community. No one I spoke with said their leaders are any better or think they have all the answers to our world problems… the hope is for the Americans to elect someone who has a leadership style conducive to bringing people together, and without the arrogance the rest of the world deems American leadership to possess.</p>
<p>"But the most oft heard remark was that Obama better understands the nuances of being part of a global community. No one I spoke with said their leaders are any better or think they have all the answers to our world problems… "</p>
<p>The concern that I have with this (and I know you’re 100% accurate Teriwtt), is that to me it’s just another way of putting others’ interests equal to or above our own, and I think the interests of the United States must run far ahead of any other interests to our government.
I think it’s unfair to punish Senator McCain for having been a POW.</p>
<p>In our incredibly interconnected world the United States would exert much more effective leadership by taking a collaborative rather than a bullying stance. We need to keep our own national interest firmly in mind, but we don’t need to come out swinging (or shooting) all the time. I think that it’s that kind of stance that people in other countries object to - it is perceived as arrogance. We need to build coalitions to solve problems and not be the enforcer all the time. And yeah, it would help our image if our president could speak in complete sentences. And use a few big words!</p>
<p>We need a president with stongly held principles, but with intellectual flexibility; someone who can learn and adapt as conditions and information change and can accept input and ideas from a wide range of sources. We have had the exact opposite of that for the last 7+ years, and look where it has got us.</p>
<p>I understand that McCain has had a long and occasionally illustrious career in the Senate, but he hasn’t learned the most fundamental truth from his experience in Viet Nam - occupying a country where a substantial percentage of the population views us as the enemy is generally unsuccessful.</p>
<p>“We need to keep our own national interest firmly in mind, but we don’t need to come out swinging (or shooting) all the time. I think that it’s that kind of stance that people in other countries object to - it is perceived as arrogance”</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree. I think that people in other countries (and even terrorists) weren’t too fond of us even before Bush was president. I don’t advocate “bullying” under any circumstances, but our national policies should be about our nation.</p>
<p>“We have had the exact opposite of that for the last 7+ years, and look where it has got us.”</p>
<p>I’ve never been a fan of the Iraq war. have always had huge misgivings, but I don’t think a fair assessment of this period in our national history can be written without the context of the 9/11 attacks. Choices made by terrorists, choices made by former presidents, choices made by Congress all played a very large role in getting us where we are now.</p>
<p>Didn’t Europeans think poorly of “Cowboy” Ronald Reagan but loved the style of Carter? They loved the end of the Cold War and the lessened threat of Russia but hated the “way” there were obtained. The United States was, is, and will always be the country they love to hate.</p>
<p>If we had listened to voters in France, Jerry Lewis should be on his 7th term in the White House.</p>
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<p>Clinton’s most prominent foreign policy success was a speech she made in Beijing, China in 1995- yes, a speech. And the Clinton camp attacks Barack on how he is mostly words…</p>
<p>“It is strange that Senator Clinton would base her own foreign policy experience on a speech that she gave over a decade ago, since she so frequently belittles Barack Obama’s speech opposing the Iraq war six years ago,” wrote Greg Craig, a former State Department policy planning director, in a Tuesday (3/11/08) Obama campaign memo.</p>
<p>Well the guy I worked for in Germany loved the idea of the Reagan tax cuts, but mostly they were bemused that we’d elected a MOVIE ACTOR as president. They felt he was naive, but I never felt he was dismissed in the same way that Bush is.</p>
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<p>Well I have a laundry list of about 17 countries and I’ve never felt or heard resentment toward America. Everywhere we went (over the course of 9 years during 3 different decades) we received a warm reception. I’ve never felt embarassed to be an American (except by other Americans behaving badly). The only time I ever cringed was over a political cartoon in Britain showig an American at the gas pump with a giant vehicle - made us look rather gluttonous. We lived and worked among the locals - never isolated among Americans, and never stayed at “American style” hotels. The people we encountered were friendly, welcoming, and really really wanted to practice their english (once we spoke a few words in the local language of course).</p>
<p>So - my question(s) for you, teriwtt, is - just how many people did you talk to in Ireland?? Enough to present an adequate representation of the sentiments of the entire country? </p>
<p>And how in the world would they KNOW that “Obama better understands the nuances of being part of a global community”?</p>