<p>^^I find that offensive, tega. </p>
<p>He’s much more than “the Black Candidate.” Despite Bill Clinton’s best efforts at marginalizing him in the media.</p>
<p>I have googled every which way, Iowa, New Hampshire, DNC, Huffington and I have not found 1 place where they show that Obama is getting women voters like Hillary. </p>
<p>Remember the process at Iowa is totally different it is a Caucus, not a primary…in other words districts vote as a block, you don’t win by the pop. vote</p>
<p>Very offensive, I agree.</p>
<p>Blacks made up 53% of voters, and Obama dominated, winning 82% of black men and 79% of black women.</p>
<p>Edwards won among white men, with 43%. Hillary won white women with 44%. But Obama fared better with white men than perhaps expected. Hillary barely beat him among white men, 29% to 27%.</p>
<p>Momof2inca,</p>
<p>He is more than those words, but at the end of the day does he have the experience to lead our country in terms of global economy, terrorism, military?</p>
<p>Does he have enough experience to understand how to negotiate the waters around the Capitol? He is still new as a Senator and now running for Pres.</p>
<p>What bill has he written? What is his experience to unite us, except he is an eloquent speaker…sorry that’s not enough for me</p>
<p>I did not mean to offend anyone. Clearly from the exist polls ;over 80% of the Black voters voted for Obama, I can conclude that Blacks overwhelmingly prefer Obama to any other candidate.</p>
<p>abc44, you make my case for me.</p>
<p>Yeah, tega, but you would not call McCain the White Candidate or H. Clinton the Woman Candidate. Ugh. Maybe mini is right.</p>
<p>Watching MSNBC tonight, they suggested that Clinton would like for Edwards to stay in the race. Whether she believes it’s useful to have a 3rd candidate there (to help diffuse the race and gender issue), or she feels that Edwards supporters would go to Obama, is unclear.</p>
<p>Also, they stated that tomorrow’s NY Times has an Op-Ed piece by Caroline Kennedy, endorsing Obama. The piece is titled, “A President like my Father.” That surely has to be a boon to Obama.</p>
<p>^^^you are right in regards to abc44 statistics, which if I was in Obama’s camp, I would say we have a problem nationally, b/c our meesage is not being received, the largest voting pool is over 50, soccer moms brought it home for Bill, in both cases Obama has not shored up that base.</p>
<p>Do you really believe people vote b/c Caroline Kennedy endorsed someone? She endorsed Kerry and that didn’t seem to help. </p>
<p>Anybody who cares about the NYT they will put more weight to them endorsing Hillary over Caroline’s Op-ED</p>
<p>If Hillary gets over 80% of the white vote she will be the white candidate OR if she gets 80% of the female vote she will be the female candidate.</p>
<p>It does not imply that she is only that. It means that that section of the voters given the chance to vote support her candidacy more than other candidates.</p>
<p>Caroline endorsement does not really mean anything.</p>
<p>I would still take Obama over Hillary Clinton simply because I dislike her. I dislike her. I dislike her twisted tactics to harbor votes by crying (if Obama’s bad for winning because he’s black, Clinton’s terrible for winning because she’s a woman who gets watery eyes under pressure). I couldn’t vote for her. She’s robotic and unlikeable.</p>
<p>If I can’t vote Obama, I won’t vote at all.</p>
<p>When you call someone the Black candidate it DOES imply that he is only that. It’s a way to marginalize him. Considering that whites and women are the majority in this country, to say someone is the white or woman candidate is NOT marginalizing.</p>
<p>So you would rather cut your nose off to spite your face. If it comes down to Romney and Hillary, you are going to stay at home?</p>
<p>If you do, than you lose all rights to b**ch</p>
<p>bulletandpima: I believe that people loved JFK and his presidency (Camelot, anyone?), and if his only surviving child makes strong parallels in her article between Obama and her father, and endorses him-- yeah, I think that’s gonna be a huge boon to him. Sorry, but I’m guessing that will have far more impact on voters than who the NY Times endorses. No doubt about it.</p>
<p>Here’s the Op-ed from Kennedy in tomorrow’s NYT:
<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?hp</a></p>
<p>an excerpt:</p>
<p>I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.</p>
<p>I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.</p>
<p>That is where we part.</p>
<p>Caroline is not involved in the political world, but to be brought out for endorsements. JFK also had the Bay of Pigs and was involved with Vietnam, yes, Jackie brought glamour back to the White House, but Caroline was a young child, she was raised out of the political arena (Jackie did that on purpose), is in charge of the Kennedy Foundation, but, what political experience has she had in her adult life? Why would anyone give weight to someone who is saying something for emotional reasons and not facts?</p>
<p>Cross posted, so I will add on…</p>
<p>Nothing in there talks about his experience, just his ideals and hopes. In todays world with nuclear weapon, terrorism, global economies, immigration, ss, education problems, etc. I want experience…Hopes and dreams are great, but they don’t pay the bills</p>
<p>OBTW she endorsed Kerry, and has always been at DNC conventions</p>
<p>I’m not cutting off anything – I’m not going to vote just to vote. That’s ridiculous. If it comes down to Romney or Hillary, I’m going to Cuba. Problem solved.</p>
<p>Janieblue, Yes, people love JFK, but what has Caroline done for the Democratic party? Why should her opinion matter more than NYT? </p>
<p>I did not know she has that much clout in the Democratic party.</p>
<p>Especially the Cuban Missile Crisis. Caroline was a toddler when JFK died. She has no way to know, other than you or I.</p>
<p>bulletandpima, </p>
<p>I’m sorry, but sometimes I wonder, from reading your posts, whether you even have emotions. I’m not trying to be mean, but I just don’t understand your relentless insistence on experience. Not everyone basis their vote on purely rational, logical reasons such as political experience. Many, many people want to believe in a candidate’s ability to heal or fix problems that exist below the logical, rational level, that exist in the nation’s collective psyche, if you will. Many people are so turned off to the political establishment, whether donkey or elephant, that they – like our friend NearL – feel like just dropping out altogether. A man whose life story, experience and vision for the country that includes, but is not limited to, uniting disparate agendas and empowering the political body (as opposed to it’s brain), gives people hope that our country can rise to greatness, can redeem itself to its own people and to the world. So many people are so incredibly sick of the divisiveness, epitomized by the Clintons this week, that what Obama brings to the table truly makes a Senate bill or running an executive office pale by comparison.</p>