coaches promise college scholarships to middle school players

<p>Verbal “committments” of young student athletes happens all the time in ice hockey. Many talented freshman/sophomores are recruited and then state their intentions to attend X-Div 1 Hockey School.
This happens well before these kids take their college boards and well before they have a couple of more years to develop athletically.</p>

<p>I have never understood how D1 coaches get away with this base on the NCAA recruiting rules, which state (to paraphrase) that no formal contact can occur between a coach and a player until after July 1st of their Junior Year–anyone have any insight into this?</p>

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<p>The specifics of this requirement can be found at <a href=“http://www.ncaa.org%5B/url%5D”>www.ncaa.org</a> . I do not remember a string on the clearinghouse but there are a ton of existing strings on college recruiting if you search on “recruiting”. Good luck!</p>

<p>the conference SeaKing has penalized CS HS for the past two years and the upcoming season. CS is filing an appeal. This clears the way for the state WIAA association to strip the state titles away. GOOD.</p>

<p>Having spent decades in youth soccer, if I had a nickel for each coach who promised that playing for them would end up in scholarship to college… I’d rival Bill Gates. </p>

<p>Parents are desperate for their kids to get into college via atheletic scholarship. Kids forgo studies to make practices. They can’t think of any other way to pay for college. Yet, the dollar amount of acedemic awards darwf sports scholarships. What folks also don’t realize is that a sports full ride is no longer a 4 year guarantee. It’s year to year and depending on the coach, can go away. </p>

<p>What CS HS did should be severely punished. It’s just wrong on so many levels.</p>

<p>Yes, it was very poor conduct on the part of the adults; but whey then are they being permitted to keep the teaching jobs? Poor example of a teacher as far as I can see. Oh, is it because the bad behavior didn’t occur in the classroom? After school sports are part of the classroom!!!</p>

<p>I think only one is a counselor at the school. The others are hired coaches. The head coach was at Eastside C a few years ago and let go despite a strong winning record. No reason was ever given. My guess would be something similar. Behavoir like this doesn’t just come upon someone instantly.</p>

<p>What concerns me more are the prinicpals of metro worring more about a lawsuit from the guilty parties than doing the right thing for the students and schools who played by the rules. I’m old school though, times have changed and somethings are OK as long as you win. CS won one game 85-3 during their run with their ringers. I have no pity for the HS and the team. The kids knew, they aren’t stupid. Everybody knew what was going on. Greed just got the better of everyone involved.</p>

<p>My daughter attends Garfield and while it is in a different division than Sealth- the coach absented herself from their last home game (2 games? ever in this building- it is closing tommorow)- because the athletic secretary made a mistake and didn’t put a players name correctly on the roster, even though she had her forms turned in.
The school polices itself- they don’t wait for the newspapers to do it.</p>

<p>It really disappoints me- that the head coach of this team is still in a leadership position at the school.
What sort of example is he telling the kids-
lie and if you get caught- take them to court?</p>

<p>Oh an update! </p>

<p>[from basketball viewpoint](<a href=“http://girlshoops.scout.com/2/501447.html”>http://girlshoops.scout.com/2/501447.html&lt;/a&gt;) from last year- but still this should be a big deal</p>

<p>I received this in my email today</p>

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<p>I thank the Goddess that our last name does not start with G-Li, but what about all the kids that do?
How can this guy advise students? I haven’t heard of any change of heart or amends for what he has done.</p>

<p>Is it the same guy for sure?</p>

<p>well since he retained his counseling position at Chief Sealth after they removed him as coach- and since he is in the same district with the same email- I would guess so</p>

<p>Hmm I was gonna say that he must have been with the district for a long time- to be still employed , but according to his pay record he makes about $20,000 less in base salary than another counselor at our school with same hours, so perhaps he hasn’t been with the district for that long.</p>

<p>That’s too bad. Is there a way to check. Maybe the Times needs a tip?</p>

<p>He was at eastside Catholic before (private) so that might explain the lesser public pay scale. </p>

<p>I feel for you in Seattle Schools. Good luck and keep chugging along, and how’s your D’s rugby coming along? The rugby world cup starts in a few days. </p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

<p>If he was a significant figure in the West Seattle High School scandal, he should have been booted or substantially demoted. What are we trying to teach these kids? Ethical behavior has to account for something. Unethical behavior has to be sanctioned. That the objects were minority kids, his crime is even more grave, as far as I am concerned.</p>

<p>At the first PTA meeting of the year- a feature was introducing new staff members.
One of them was Ray Willis, and I was apprehensive about how he was going to present himself but trying to reserve judgement- really.</p>

<p>The only thing I can think of, is he must have a personality disorder.
I was hoping to hear something about- he was trying to make a new start- and thats why the change of schools- that he has learned from his dismissals and he is eager to work with the kids and teach them that everything is a lesson and you can build on it and keep moving forward.</p>

<p>Well- he started off with his childhood in East La and about what a rough crowd he ran with, didn’t mention that his mother was a professor till the end, went on about how he was so talented in basketball that he was scouted and got a scholarship, that he writes music for showtime, HBO and Cirque De Soliel, about how “they” were just jealous of his high school teams success & that the charges were to be found without merit ( which made me wonder, since he lost his coaching job & the team was stripped of the titles)</p>

<p>My jaw was dropping, because he kept talking about an award that that boys and girls club had given him- as role model of the year & I never saw anything about that in the paper and I can’t find anything about it online.</p>

<p>Talking about his accomplishments, rather than the accomplishments of students that he works with-just didn’t leave me with a good feeling </p>

<p>Sometimes I wished I lived in NYC, this “Seattle Nice” will give us ulcers.</p>

<p>Seattle is no longer the home of my childhood. The city is now an odd cultural mix of new wealth (i.e. Microsoft Millionaires), new residents (lots of Californians and Midwesterners), new emigres with failed dreams and new urban problems. The public schools are a case in point. That someone like Ray Willis could be shuffled around so he can dissappoint or ignore the best interests of more minority students is just awful, but probably routine for today’s ‘plantation master’ atitude at SPS. Sorry for the melodrama, but it really disturbs me.</p>